Schools

[Jack]

I honestly thought there were no longer grammer schools in the UK until i spoke to my sister today. She's just started in cardiff uni and has to do some education classes as part of her course.

Last week a question asked was "why are comprehensive school pupils likely to get a lower I.Q score than grammer school pupils in a test ?" Some stuck up bitch answered "because they are more likely to be from a working class background and not have access to the right resources." I would have gone ****ing mental. She also found out she was the only one in the class who went to comprehensive school to which the lecturer answered "are you sure ?". :no: :mad:

[BARNETFAN1]

I went to a comprehensive......needless to say it was shit :rolleyes:

[Ji]

I went to grammar school :smokin:

In answer to the question I would make the same point as I did in the 11+ thread in Current Affairs... the reason that grammar school results would be better than secondary/comp results because of the divisions between those who want to learn and those who don't at an early age. Those who want to learn are more likely to put the effort into their work...

[Jack]

We had no 11+ exams though or a grammer school in the area. Thats why i thought they didnt even exist anymore.

[MOJOJO]

Originally posted by Ji
I went to grammar school :smokin:

In answer to the question I would make the same point as I did in the 11+ thread in Current Affairs... the reason that grammar school results would be better than secondary/comp results because of the divisions between those who want to learn and those who don't at an early age. Those who want to learn are more likely to put the effort into their work...
Are you for real, this is utter nonsense…

[Gruffy]

ay jack, wat comp did u used go to?

i went to morriston comp and lookin back it now, ive had some good laughs there fair play!!

ask STID about the science lessons we had:laugh: :laugh:

[SamB_SCFC]

I went to a comprehensive in Stoke-on-Trent. When I left (3 years ago now) it was put under 'special measures' by ofsted, which is just about the worst category that they can label a school! Apparantly it's improved shed loads since I've left, but it really was a run down cack hole with shite teachers when I was there.

[Swansea Til I die]

Yeah, Morriston was quite rough.....

Coedcae u went to wasnt it Jack? Thats not meant to be too bad a school is it? Well better than Morriston anyhow

[Ji]

Originally posted by MOJOJO
Are you for real, this is utter nonsense…

Yes I am for real. That is my experience of the division. Of course, some may later change their mind and decide they have an interest in their education but there are some who just couldn't care less.

For further info look at the 11+ thread in Current Affairs from a while back.

[MOJOJO]

I couldn’t find the 11+ thread maybe you could leave a link.
What is it your actually saying are you saying that Grammar schools are better because the pupils that attend them want to learn or are they better because they’re elitist organisations that cherry picks the best pupils from their area.
Grammar schools are being phased out and have disappeared from most parts of the UK and good riddance as far as I’m concerned, the days of middle class schoolgirls lording it over the rest of the school population are at an end…:)

[Ji]

Here (http://footballforums.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28285) is the 11+ thread from Current Affairs.

Yes, I am saying that grammar school results are generally better because the pupils who attend them have more interest in their education. I'm NOT saying that they're full of middle class kids who think they're better than everyone else, simply because its not true, in my experience at least.

Nor am I saying that noone who goes to a secondary school instead of a grammar school has an interest in their education - some people just couldn't get the grades required even with effort, or the school, whose catchment area the person in question fell into, filled its intake capacity with grades that were higher.

In NI the system is still based on grammar schools versus secondary schools, and last time I checked, exam results in NI far outpassed most other areas of the UK.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Swansea Til I die
Yeah, Morriston was quite rough.....

Coedcae u went to wasnt it Jack? Thats not meant to be too bad a school is it? Well better than Morriston anyhow

Yep. Was'nt too bad but it was the nearest school to the rougher parts of town so had an intake of quite a few headers.