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2019 General Election

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by johnnyT, Sep 5, 2019.

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Who wins the election

Poll closed Sep 26, 2019.
  1. Lib Dems

    12.5%
  2. Labour

    34.4%
  3. Conservative/Brexit alliance

    50.0%
  4. Greens

    3.1%
  1. Papa Francesco

    Papa Francesco Registered User

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    They said this after May's deal was negotiated. It's empty waffle.
     
  2. The Doc

    The Doc #freegabrielheinze

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    See that's were they are failing then because its not very clear. As even in your 1st paragraph you are not certain chief.

    That's not me digging you out by the way but Labour certainly haven't made it clear.
     
  3. King_Kenny

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    Boris Johnsons record against Corbyn is almost as bad as Evertons at Anfield mate ;)
     
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  4. The Doc

    The Doc #freegabrielheinze

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    I thought they were iron clad set in stone don't need to budge. :laugh:

    The whole brexit debate is a farce. Folk use the same points to prove different conclusions when it suits.

    I re-iterate the point to the last poster Will this is isn't me having a pop at you more the frustration of seeing no end to triumphalism (is that a word :laugh:). Regardless of the outcome of Brexit.
     
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  5. Si Robin

    Si Robin Cheltenham Spa - Ra ra ra

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    I didn't take it as such - the rhetoric from Labour is that they will negotiate a better deal to put to the public and that will then go to a vote.

    I'm putting 2+2 together and saying that if they can't get a better deal, they'll put the best there is to the public. That seems logical* to me.


    *I'm aware with politics logic tends to go out of the window.
     
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  7. MrE

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    I thought it was George Galloway
     
  8. King_Kenny

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    triumphalism
    /trʌɪˈʌmf(ə)lɪz(ə)m/

    Learn to pronounce

    noun
    noun: triumphalism
    excessive exultation over one's success or achievements (used especially in a political context).




    Sounds like every single poster on this forum to be fair :laugh:
     
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  9. JTC77

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    I doubt there would be much wiggle room on the WA. However, the white paper on future relationship can be amended, as Johnson did when he removed the guarantee we gave not to undercut the EU on workers rights, which May had previously included. So there is scope for further changes, and it certainly isn't set in stone.

    EDIT: Just want to point out that all the debate has been about the Withdrawal Agreement. We have even started to negotiate the actual Trade Deal, or what our future relationship will be like. The White Paper is there to provide some guidance, but we are only at the beginning of the Brexit process. Its by no means over.
     
  10. johnnyT

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    When the Tories win a majority, the deal will be ripped up and we just leave.

    <taps nose>
     
  11. MrE

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    :laugh:
     
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    I think Brexit might be done by the time that happens mate :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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    Her saying she would hold another vote on foxhunting and the dementia tax made sure she wouldn't win with a decent majority, she was warned by cabinet ministers not to do these things but she knew best, she was by far the worst PM we've had in my lifetime and i'm 60 next year.
     
  14. Jonny Ninja

    Jonny Ninja witty unpredictable talent and natural game

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    Lol no I haven’t. They don’t have a clear stance, they are trying to cover all bases, as per my post!

    I don’t know what the dementia tax is mate? Why anyone would look to overturn fox hunting is a fckin mystery?
     
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    Of course it's a clear stance. Negotiate a Brexit Deal to include protections on workers rights and the environment and then let the people have a confirmatory vote on it.
     
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    Jonny Ninja witty unpredictable talent and natural game

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    I was up for cross party talks, but let’s be honest mate, it wouldn’t work either. That’s because most don’t want to Leave. Personally I think it’s naive to think things would’ve happened differently. Imo we’d still be where we are

    my point about renegotiating is why round the EU open talks again when the labour party are giving a 2nd referendum? It’s a waste if their time. If they say no, what will labours stance be. I guatuntee that the referendum would be based on the deal or staying. That makes sense. In all fairness they are in a no win situation because half of their supporters want to leave, most mps want to stay. But sitting on the fence is not going to bridge that gap imo.
     
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    Brexit has got Boris Johnson so confused that he doesn't even understand the deal he negotiated. Here he is contradicting part of his deal and getting himself and everyone in the room confused.

     
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    Just because you do not agree with it doesn't mean it isn't clear mate.
     
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    Absolute car crash of a PM. I truly fear for this country having him in full power.
     
  20. Jonny Ninja

    Jonny Ninja witty unpredictable talent and natural game

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    It’s nonsense. They are trying to please everyone by not actually commiting to either side. Let’s see how that works out for them in the election shall we!
     

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