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Discussion in 'Introductions' started by Alec Shumway, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. Alec Shumway

    Alec Shumway Registered User

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    I am trying to get in to European football but one thing troubles me. I understand the basics of European football but cannot seem to find any information on how bad football clubs get good. For example, in American football, almost all the NFL teams have been good at one point and the majority of them have achieved the highest honor in American football; a Super Bowl victory. Another example, the Chicago Bears are very bad this year but have had a tremendous past with lots of glory and winning seasons. Also, it is almost a guarantee that within the next 5 years, the Bears will be back to their winning ways. This is attributed through trades, free agent signings and good draft picks. Now, this differs from the English Premier League because only a select few clubs have achieved winning the Premier League. So, how does a team like Burnley, Sunderland, Hull City or any other unsuccessful clubs ever achieve any real success or are they just doomed for failure. They obviously dont have the finicial strength as the big clubs and there is no draft system like in the NFL so how do they ever bring on enough good players to win it all?
     
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  3. Alec Shumway

    Alec Shumway Registered User

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    Well it doesn't seem like that's working out too well for the bad clubs
     
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    That's because they haven't got enough of it. They need to get more or they will never be good clubs.
     
  5. The Doc

    The Doc No swearing allowed

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    two words

    Leicester City
     
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    You mean the same Leicester City that spent a fortune that they shouldn't have done to get promoted from the Championship and cheated their way around the financial fair play rules?

    Yeah money had nothing to do with their improvement from a "bad club".:laugh:
     
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    Yep them be they.
     
  8. Panja

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    @Alec Shumway, I would contest your claim that the majority of NFL teams have "achieved the highest honour in American football; a Super Bowl victory". In fact, almost half of the 32 teams have never won the trophy.

    And as for the draft giving parity to the teams, how's that working out for Detroit, Cleveland and the New York Jets? Oh, and the once great San Francisco, who have been shite for years.
     
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    NFL is communist.
     
  10. Steve - Wfc

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    Welcome to the forum.

    Feel free to call it soccer if you wish.
     
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    I guess that isn't the point, though. They are put in a position to succeed through the draft, but it's still up to them to make the right moves. Some do it better than others. The Raiders built through the draft, making up for the awful Jamarcus Russell pick with the likes of Carr, Mack, and Cooper. The Panthers were pretty bad in a bad division until guys like Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly were drafted early in consecutive years. The framework is there for teams to improve and to achieve long-term parity, and it's teams like the Patriots, Packers, and Steelers who have figured out a good way to maintain their elite level with usually middle to late picks. If the NFL ran like the Premier League, Denver would never have won the Super Bowl last year, and the LA Rams would have acquired every high-profile free agent available.

    However, draft aside, what really helps establish parity, at least in the sharing of stars, is the salary cap, with the OP did not mention.

    It's a socialist framework being run by a communist dictator.
     
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    Arkwright Barnsleytilidie

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    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:chainsaw::damn'puter
     
  13. PorkchopExpress

    PorkchopExpress He's super strong, and super naked!

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    A lot of years of work, and a huge slice of luck. I don't think any club in the PL can truely replicate the success of United/Liverpool/Arsenal without a "sugar daddy".

    Leicester, while not as rich as the big clubs still spent a good bit of money, but basically happened to time their best ever run of form in a season where the best clubs were not at their best. Also basically everything that needed to go well for them did. Ranieri hit the ground running, they avoided key injuries, got kovked out of the cups early to avoid fixture congestion, reserve players found a performance when the first choice players failed to perform. It was more or less as perfect as season as they could ask for.

    Unfortunately they lost their best player (Kante) and have went backwards. This will regulalry happen across all leagues when smaller teams do well (see Dortmund and Atletico).
     

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