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Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by johnnyT, Nov 16, 2018.
If the deal passed they'd still shout shame on you as it wasn't the imaginary deal they wanted.
It was Brexiteer Tories that voted against it ffs.
Well obviously it couldn't be done without Tory rebels, but that points to an ineffective government with an opposition that can and will take advantage of that is surely at least an above average one ffs.
The plan is to get it thru on the 4th attempt and she quits.
The new PM has sovereign power and can revoke it and leave with no deal.
According to IDS.
I thought the plan was to get it through on this 3rd attempt and she'd quit.
I like Corbyn and what he stands for. However, he is no leader and has no control whatsoever of his party, hence leaving a lot of Labour voters disillusioned and wondering whether to vote elsewhere.
I honestly think a big sticking point is Brexit, but he can't outright oppose it due to so many Labour constituencies being leave, but can't outright support it as a large portion of his voters are young and obviously most of the youth vote don't want it. He can't win. I think that now by supporting a second referendum he's played the best hand he possibly can in the circumstances. Outside of Brexit he's been fine opposition imo, he's just been ridiculously hounded by the media, and yet he still stands strong.
Pmsl most labour constituencies voted leave and only 4 Labour MPs followed through with it.
Yeah I think you’re right, I naturally support a lot of Corbyn’s policies but his stance on Brexit is f*cking annoying and he hasn’t brought the party under control around the anti Semitic stuff. Also I despise momentum, they’re like a cult and can’t critique anything, it’s all or nothing crap.
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Farage time is back by the looks of it.
They're all coming out of the woodwork.......
71% think the internet is a force for ill
It couldn't be clearer that it's a generational matter.
That's the opposition benches. Labour aren't in power. Although I agree there's a lot of them trying to overturn the result the fact is Brexit Mps voted against this deal which is why it didn't pass.
I agree regarding momentum, and the anti-Semitism thing has been massively overblown. It has been dealt with relatively poorly when pointed out though and that is a huge problem they need to work on. Racism in any form can fvck off tbh, but the level of anti-Semitism in Labour is far lower than the level of islamophobia in the Tory party, but of course, Islamophobia is acceptable to most people.
The Labour party are more concerned with tit for tat factions over Israel and Palestine than Brexit. That's what the majority of the anti-Semitism is about.
If you truly felt like that you would have left it at that... Shown your true colours
Yep, pointing out media hypocrisy clearly outs me as a racist, you're right.
Cheers, thought so
It is a force for ill in my opinion and I'm only 35. Old enough to remember the days before but young enough to be fluent in it. It's the openness that's the problem. When humans are given unregulated freedom they will always inevitably use it for negative purposes and the negatives will eventually outweigh the positives. That's why society and the rule of law developed to control people and curb their negative urges. The internet as it stands is currently too free and the dark side of human nature is growing at an exponential rate and crossing into the real world.
In the next 50 years in my opinion there are going to need to be big interventions to curb this. Quite how it'll be achieved I don't know to be honest but it needs to happen.