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Btexit Party will change the 2 party system

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by johnnyT, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. Andy SFC

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    If you are voting today, remember penisbest :dunce:
     
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    I made a rookie error and used pencil, they, will no doubt change it.....
     
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  3. PorkchopExpress

    PorkchopExpress The Blackfish

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    @1991 will probably be campaigning to have you shot now.
     
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    I can't believe the mad righties still believe that they change your votes if you vote in pencil. :laugh:
     
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    Faustus 94% Deplatformed.

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    Change UK already looking like a party that's given up trying. Couldn't even put a logo on the ballot paper, I nearly confused them for an independent candidate.
     
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  7. Andy SFC

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    I know, it hasn't occurred to them that they could just not count them. i do love the notion that in the back of every polling station is some poor sod rubbing out endless votes for the Brexit party. That is how much politics has been dumbed down in this country now, I mean these half wits are allowed to vote and breed.
     
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    Not a fan of the milkshake chucking, political violence: cowards edition
     
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    Well, my vote's in. Green.
     
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    That's pretty low throwing milkshake on an old dude.
     
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    Nigel loves the E.U. better than Jean Claude Junker, what would he do without it ?
     
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    Become the Commission President.
     
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    RedDevilsShinja End Forced Debt + Fiat. Return to Gold

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    Lega aren't a far right group :laugh::laugh::laugh:

    What do you expect them to do? Farage's old group is defunct and then there's only really the Lega group that's eurosceptic.
     
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    My Italian friends would disagree with you there


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    brexit party has no long term plans they just want to cause economic chaos by crashing us out of europe then they will disband

    on a fptp general election like the farage ran ukip before them they would be lucky to get a seat or two.

    in the eu election in my view almost all brexiters came out in force and scraped 34% of the vote, half of remainers didnt bother and got 40%, with the rest unknown as they voted for labour and tory. in a GE the turnout for remainers would be much higher.
     
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    Let them enjoy their moment. Farage and his band of idiots know this is the only success they will taste so he can run around till next GE banging on about how the country is behind him and then get hammered in a GE and accuse of being fixed by the political elite. Its nothing to do with stay or leave its simply people voting Tory or labour because they think voting for anyone else is a waste of time.
     
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    Read today that Farage only gained 2% more of the vote than he did in 2014, so this Brexit party surge is basically nothing in reality.

    Seems also that the far right/anti-europe surge that was supposed to sweep Europe basically didn't happen, with greens and progressive parties generally doing the best and lots of the far right and anti-Eu parties doing nothing or nowhere near as expected, for example Le Pen in France got less share of the vote than she did in the elections for president and still couldn't get more than a hugely unpopular president.
     
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    That's because this idea of 'populists flooding/destroying Europe' has little basis in reality it's the EU and Eurofederalists own version of Project Fear. Apart from a few throwaway remarks by Salvini much more noise has been made about 'populists and nationalists flooding Europe' by the likes of Verhofstadt and Macron than by the populists or nationalists themselves. If anything most of those parties actually have a far more moderate line on the EU than in 2014, few actually talk about leaving the EU or Euro now. It's their own propaganda project they've been blowing up for the past few months to motivate and scare liberals and Eurofederalists into turning up at the polls in fear of some steady gains by them looking like an impending apocalypse of nationalism and populism. Nationalists are making steady gains across Europe, but it's a long-term shift on the right, not a one-off, the idea it's an impending apocalypse is little more than lies and misinformation however.

    It's a remarkable lack of self-awareness on their part too that a lot of them are now themselves behaving like populists themselves, albeit with a liberal, Eurofederalist position. It's only so long before we'll end up seeing Verhofstadt wearing a 'Make Europe Great Again! hat and clinging onto an EU flag at rallies. Just a bargain basement version lacking the same scale of appeal or audience.

    If you take away En Marche making a lukewarm first electoral appearance after almost two years of being polled for a landslide victory and the Lib Dems making ALDE's numbers look much better. ALDE parties actually had a very mediocre set of results without those two parties and lost support in the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Sweden and Finland. Greens aren't liberals in the same vein as Eurofederalists like Verhofstadt and Macron and don't have that many of the same priorities, something that is going to become very apparent in the new parliament. They are more like a re-alignment on the left than a new force. Like the UK, this wasn't a triumph of the pro-EU forces, but a fracturing of them among distinctly different ideological groups that are individually weaker than before.
     

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