1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Bundesliga - 2019/20

Discussion in 'General Worldwide Football Discussion' started by zippy, Jul 10, 2019.

  1. Dirk

    Dirk Wir kommen wieder!

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3,174
    Likes Received:
    2,294
    Location:
    Deutschland
    Supports:
    Hamburger SV
    I didn't even notice it that Mannheim is still unbeaten. OK, they had drawn the first 3 matches so not in the top actually but kudos to them. Not bad for a new promoted team and winning 4-0 is a statement, even if it is "only" against 1860 ;)

    re: Winning 4-0: HSV with a convincing 4-0 away win at Nürnberg. Could've been even 6-0 but ex HSV Keeper Mathenia saved them. That was really fun to watch this time, best away performance of HSV for years.
    I know why I was so happy when Sonny Kittel decided to join HSV. He was already one of my favourite Buli2 players last season for Ingolstadt. And today he showed his class. 1 Goal and 1 assist ( and a brilliant "second hand" assist with his back heel kick).
     
  2. Philip The Frog

    Philip The Frog Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2019
    Messages:
    135
    Likes Received:
    25
    Location:
    France
    Supports:
    Groundhopping
    Let's see how good you are in the flesh on Sunday.
     
  3. Dirk

    Dirk Wir kommen wieder!

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3,174
    Likes Received:
    2,294
    Location:
    Deutschland
    Supports:
    Hamburger SV
    Some trouble about HSV player Bakery Jatta. Rumours are that he's actually a bit older (21 instead of 23) and that his real name should be Bakery Daffeh.
    OK many women are also lying about their age ;) but what is more serious is, when the rumours are correct, that he wasn't underaged when he came to Germany in 2015 from Gambia and asked for asylum and would've also lied to the authorities about his identity.
    Also: Two coaches in Gambia told Sport Bild that Jatta once played in their team. Up until now Jatta always said that he never professional football until he came to Germany.

    Actually the DFB (Deutscher Fußball Bund/German FA) Control Committee and also the Bezirksamt Hamburg are doing some investigations about this. I really hope that these rumours aren't true because Jatta is a likeable guy.

    First reaction of Nürnberg. They put in a veto against the result of the monday match which they lost 0-4 against HSV. Jatta played for 65min.

    But: HSV knew about these rumours since last week. The club lawyer asked the DFL (Deutsche Fußball Liga/ German Football League) before the Monday night match about the consequences if they let Jatta play and the DFL gave the ok for the match.
     
    #63 Dirk, Aug 8, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2019
  4. StillHurts31

    StillHurts31 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2012
    Messages:
    21,502
    Likes Received:
    6,740
    Location:
    Liverpool
    Supports:
    Liverpool
    Young cb of ours Nathan Phillips gone on loan to Stuttgart.
     
  5. Philip The Frog

    Philip The Frog Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2019
    Messages:
    135
    Likes Received:
    25
    Location:
    France
    Supports:
    Groundhopping
    If I had a nickel for each player we fielded who didn't have legit papers, I'd be rich!

    However, Saint-Etienne did get a heavy fine and points deduction some 15 years ago for fielding players with fake passports (gosh this takes me back!).
     
  6. Dirk

    Dirk Wir kommen wieder!

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3,174
    Likes Received:
    2,294
    Location:
    Deutschland
    Supports:
    Hamburger SV
    DFB and DFL both declared yesterday that Jatta is still eligible to play. What really annoys me is the cheekiness of Nürnberg to put in a veto against the 0-4 result from Monday, right after they heard about the rumours.
    They should be thankful that it was only 0-4 and now they try to "gain" the 3 pts in an armchair decision. I hope they lose at Ingolstadt in the Cup, too. Bloody Clubberer :angryfire

    Darmstadt, our opponent in the 1st match, didn't put in a veto because they said that Jatta was eligible to play and they don't want an "armchair decision".

    Today the 1st cup round starts with Uerdingen vs Dortmund (live in Free TV). HSV (with Jatta) on Sunday in the East against Chemnitzer FC (actually 19th in the 3. Liga).
    The club just made some news here as they fired their Captain Daniel Frahn because of his relations to right wing fan groups of the club. Last season he was already warned when he showed a shirt during a league match to show sympathy when a known neo nazi fan of the club died
     
  7. Philip The Frog

    Philip The Frog Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2019
    Messages:
    135
    Likes Received:
    25
    Location:
    France
    Supports:
    Groundhopping
    I shall keep on eye out for Jatta at the game mate, see what the local crowd thinks of all that. Should be interesting.
     
  8. c.bland96

    c.bland96 Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2019
    Messages:
    228
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    UK
    Supports:
    Sunderland
    Dortmund won 2-0 last night like, how seriously do teams take the early stages of the cup? Is it seen as a part of pre season?
     
  9. Dirk

    Dirk Wir kommen wieder!

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3,174
    Likes Received:
    2,294
    Location:
    Deutschland
    Supports:
    Hamburger SV
    Local crowd? You should talk with the HSV fans instead.
    Do you understand "sächsisch"? (terrible accent btw)

    Hope you'll enjoy your stay!

    Depends.
    Dortmund took it very seriously. They fielded nearly their best team yesterday, except the injured Goalie Bürki (but Hitz is a good one too and would be #1 in many Bundesliga clubs) and Julian Brandt.

    They fielded Thorgan Hazard and Mats Hummels, both didn't play last week in the Supercup against Bayern.

    btw:
    Luck for Dortmund that in the Cup the VAR isn't there until the 1/8 finals because Marco Reus stopped the Ball with the hand before he made the goal right after half-time.
    And Mats Hummels with 2 mistakes yesterday which nearly cost Dortmund a goal or two.
     
  10. Minty

    Minty Carpe Diem

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    7,369
    Likes Received:
    1,951
    Location:
    London
    Supports:
    Celtic
    Hope Dortmund win it.
     
  11. Adz

    Adz Draw specialist.

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2007
    Messages:
    14,790
    Likes Received:
    1,100
    Location:
    Sunny South Tyneside
    Supports:
    Sunderland AFC
    I hope nothing comes of it. It sounds as though HSV have done everything correctly but just been duped by the player.
     
  12. c.bland96

    c.bland96 Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2019
    Messages:
    228
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    UK
    Supports:
    Sunderland
    Looks like Perisic is off to Bayern.

    Bayern in Cup action tonight away at Cottbus
     
  13. c.bland96

    c.bland96 Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2019
    Messages:
    228
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    UK
    Supports:
    Sunderland
    Perisic confirmed at Bayern, reportedly interested in Coutinho as well now. Assume it all falls in to place of any deal with Neymar to Barca and needing him out.

    Werner from Leipzig also linked with Valenica today
     
  14. Philip The Frog

    Philip The Frog Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2019
    Messages:
    135
    Likes Received:
    25
    Location:
    France
    Supports:
    Groundhopping
    Had a great time in Chemnitz and Halle, Magdeburg was not as friendly. Not sure if it's the skinheads I was standing next to in the ground but they looked like a rowdy bunch and not just at the ground. Maybe it's just me.
    Anyway Chemnitz and Halle, got a better feel of the place. Chemnitz used to be FC Karl-Marx Stadt and the locals were very enthusiastic. Loads of Hamburg fans in the home end next to the away block (which is where I was) and there a few Werden and St Pauli kits from the locals just to piss them off but it was all good humoured even after such a eventful game. Chemnitz scored a penalty and headed a goal in from a corner while Hamburg's goals were more sophisticated. Wouldn't say Hamburg deserved to go through but they certainly showed character as they could have easily been beaten by a resourceful third tier side.
    Halle's game was, despite the scoreline, less entertaining. Yes Wolfsburg won the game 5-3 after extra-time but the defending was shit from start to finish. Wolfsburg were on top for most of the game and before the opener it was only a matter of time for the visitors to score but they just couldn't defend in the air. Halle really weren't very good and they pushed Wolfsburg to play 2 hours instead of the customary 90 minutes. Food for though for their new manager (actually, I didn't dwell on the Magdeburg/Freiburg game but Freiburg were seriously rubbish and didn't look like the top league side they are).

    I did enjoy Hamburg's chant starting with Scheiss die Schule und Arbeit, Dirk. Didn't quite get the rest but if was all good fun.
     
    #74 Philip The Frog, Aug 13, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2019
    Dirk likes this.
  15. Dirk

    Dirk Wir kommen wieder!

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3,174
    Likes Received:
    2,294
    Location:
    Deutschland
    Supports:
    Hamburger SV
    Going in a St.Pauli or Werder shirt to a HSV away match in Chemnitz? Jesus Christ :laugh:

    Sonny Kittel again with a free kick. 2nd match in a row. Aaron Hunt, be aware ;)

    The whole phrase is: "Scheiß auf Schule und Arbeit! Das macht mich nicht glücklich! Sieben Tage die Woche denk' ich an Dich: HSV"


    edit: So you stayed a few days in the East then?
     
    #75 Dirk, Aug 14, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2019
  16. Philip The Frog

    Philip The Frog Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2019
    Messages:
    135
    Likes Received:
    25
    Location:
    France
    Supports:
    Groundhopping
    That was a typo. I meant to write that I did enjoy that chant. Yeah thought the song was more or less I bleed Hamburg the rest doesn't matter. Or something like that.

    Stayed 3 days in the east. Saturday in Magdeburg, Sunday in Chemnitz and Monday in Halle. Was great fun. Up to 33 german grounds now.
     
  17. The only Greek here

    The only Greek here Registered User

    Joined:
    May 4, 2019
    Messages:
    1,402
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Athens, Greece
    Supports:
    AEK Athens
    Bundesliga starts tomorrow! Can Bayern make it 8 in a row???
     
  18. Philip The Frog

    Philip The Frog Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2019
    Messages:
    135
    Likes Received:
    25
    Location:
    France
    Supports:
    Groundhopping
    Depressing as it may sound yes. Seriously how can a league be competitive with the same side winning the title over and over again for almost a decade? Oh well, glad it's back (GLADBACH!).
     
  19. zippy

    zippy The friendly Fascist

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2006
    Messages:
    41,512
    Likes Received:
    1,243
    Supports:
    Sheffield United,FC Bayern
    So what do you suggest ? Maybe we should stop buying players, lose on purpose ? It's not our problem that the others are shit, with their huge attendences Dortmund and Schalke etc should be competing.
     
    The only Greek here likes this.
  20. Dirk

    Dirk Wir kommen wieder!

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3,174
    Likes Received:
    2,294
    Location:
    Deutschland
    Supports:
    Hamburger SV
    Bundesliga started nearly 3 weeks ago!

    Absolutely right. What's impressive about Bayern is that they don't need "Sugar Daddy's". Huge attendances don't make automatically a competitive club. HSV is the best example and of course Schalke. Both clubs with absolutely shit management for decades.
    re: Competitive: Dortmund is actually competitive. 2 years ago they were competitive for 25% of the season, last year for 75% (until Bayern equalised the 9 pts gap) and we had the closest finish for years. So this year it will be 100% (25+75%) ;)

    My bet is Dortmund this time. About time!

    btw: Mandzukic back to Bayern? Is this really serious? Thought they wanted to rejuvenate the team? Coutinho would be great to see in the Bundesliga but I doubt it.


    Anyway, tomorrow the 1.Bundesliga starts with the "Eröffnungsspiel": Bayern vs Hertha BSC. Don't expect much from the Berliner. But maybe Lukebakio will have another great day like last season with Düsseldorf at the Allianz Arena
     
    #80 Dirk, Aug 15, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2019

Share This Page