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Derby.....

Discussion in 'Championship' started by millers, Jan 16, 2021.

  1. Papa Francesco

    Papa Francesco Registered User

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    This isn't from The Athletic. It's from a Derby fan forum I believe.
     
  2. Del_Boy

    Del_Boy Forest hate you too

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    All clubs are financially crippled, that's the nature of the "beautiful game". Any one of us may be next.

    I'm not excusing his ****ish behaviour or the arrogance of Derby fans believing they had us all on strings, but barring Brentford, non FFP clubs tend to break FFP or run close to to get promoted. I can see how a fan in charge of a club can get carried away with spending.

    I said he was Fawaz mk2 when he came in. An idiot that's rich.
     
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  3. c.w.moss

    c.w.moss "Wasn't there""

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    Ok, thought it was cut n' pasted off The Athletic, no worries.
     
  4. Papa Francesco

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    No problem Mossy *taps nose*
     
  5. DerbyFanMatt

    DerbyFanMatt Persistant underdogs!

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    Reading in line for a 9 point deduction now
     
  6. MrLeeLemon

    MrLeeLemon 50+1

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    50+1 fan ownership has to be introduced.

    It is no silver bullet but it will help defend against clubs being run by one single basket case with no sincere care for the future of the club.
     
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  7. MrLeeLemon

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    He wasn't just some fan running the club though was he? He is still a businessman and as a businessman he clearly wanted to risk the finances to try and push Derby into the Premier League.

    Sure, he would have enjoyed that as a fan but this was also a bet... he was betting that by gaining promotion the financial windfall would result in profits from his investment.

    He bet big and he failed, and now the club will suffer. It isn't like he bet smart either... since he took over the club they've had about 9 different managers and the only one who had any history of taking a club into the Premier League got suspended (then left) after 14 games!
     
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  8. Dawg

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    ****inghell football needs to take a long hard look at itself.

    We're going to stay up on a technicality aren't we? A bit like Derby last season.
     
  9. Tomohawk

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    Derby fans have found the solution to all of the clubs problems.

    Come on @David Bird @DerbyFanMatt dig down into the sofa and see if you can find £50 million down there
     
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  10. Mowgli

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    Would be £5 at most. :laugh:
     
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  11. Tomohawk

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    To be fair the bloke who posted the original tweet also goes on to tweet this



    I really hope there are not 1 million David Bird's out there
     
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  12. Luke_1884

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    To be fair he came close in 4 out of 7 seasons, defeated by parachute payment teams with crazy wage bills in every attempt. Of course he now has the evidence how his lack of patience has cost the club (and himself) dearly so theres no argument to defend his tenure here. The Cocu appointment being the most recent killer, we did quite well out of the Rowett and Lampard appointments to be fair to him.
     
  13. MrLeeLemon

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    Came close but then again, highest ever finish was 5th place so given the amount risked on both fees and wages that is a pretty poor return.

    Looking back at the side Lampard had at his disposal (you'd know better than me) but to finish 6th with that team isn't particularly impressive, though you did come close through the play-offs. I think there is an argument to saying Mount was good enough to play for Chelsea that season, especially given how well he did in the Premier League the following season for them. Tomori now starts in the Champions League.
     
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  14. DerbyFanMatt

    DerbyFanMatt Persistant underdogs!

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    I think the Cocu appointment has cost us because of how long his contract was for. 5 years he got because the idea was that we’d blood youngsters and he did that prior so fit the bill. The problem he didn’t foresee was trying to cut the age bill and blood youngsters would put us at risk at staying in the league. Think we paid him off with about 4 years left of his tenure. Still massively overpaid though but I think morris’ thinking was that we could attach investment/ takeover which a branded manager in place? Who knows
     
  15. David Bird

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    Lol
     
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  16. David Bird

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    He had every option, its all down to Mel, he has ****ed Derby over, and he still owes the stadium, and puts us into admin, how can that be right.
     
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  17. David Bird

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    Mate even if we start again, i will still be following the Rams, thats what hardcore football fans do.
     
  18. Luke_1884

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    Tough old league to get out of.

    On paper, 6th under Lampard doesn't look anything special thanks to what the likes of Mount and Tomori are now doing but whilst they were clearly going on to bigger and better things, they didn't tear up this division as you'd think they would. We played really averagely all year that season until we won away at Bristol City, which gave us momentum for the run-in and play offs.
     
  19. SpongeParr

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    If you were going to buy a club, you would wait for them to drop, lose their high wages and then buy the club when it's cheaper. That's what I would do anyway. But I have always been rubbish at betting.
     
  20. Tomohawk

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    But £50million for Derby now is too high for people (hence Mad Mel being unable to find a buyer) so can't see many wanting to spend that and then have to spend it again just to get them back to the Championship. How many L1/L2 clubs are ever sold for anywhere near that sort of money?
     

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