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Europa League 2 Announced for 2021

Discussion in 'Uefa Champions League & Europa League' started by Flip Duckling, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. Flip Duckling

    Flip Duckling Registered User

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  2. The Doc

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    I don't get it.

    Do the two comps merge?

    Does Europa winner no longer get CL place?
     
  3. Flip Duckling

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    It's for smaller countries really. The winner of EL2 gets a place in the EL. Nothing changes for the CL.
     
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    Super_horns WATFORD Till I Die
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    7th place team in Premier league enters this but as said above its for the smaller teams who get hammered each time in the main European competitions.
     
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    They can still get hammered by the 7th best team in England or Spain who would be the favourites every year. Say it came in from next season and Man United finished 7th, they'd wipe the floor with the minnows. What happens if 7th place doesn't qualify for Europe as it goes to the cup winners instead? Would the cup winners enter, or would it be 6th place team?

    On the other hand it's probably better for a Burnley to play in this rather than play a potential 16 games or whatever just to draw Chelsea or Arsenal in the last 16 in the Europa League. Then again, Fulham and Middlesbrough both made the final recently. It'd probably be the best chance of a trophy though for the clubs who aren't usually in Europe. You might start seeing teams like Burnley take it more seriously and want to qualify for Europe.

    One of the big problems with the Europa League is allowing the CL dropouts in it. Now they're letting the drop outs from the Europa League groups into this Europa League two!

    A good thing is at least the Europa League has been streamlined a little bit with less games.
     
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    DeadlyDemon Spurs optimist

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    Assume it'll impact the Europeans more but they've squeezed a 3:30 (4:30) kick off time in to the competition.

    Who's going to watch Europe's 3rd tier competition at 3:30 or 4:30 on a Thursday afternoon? :laugh:
     
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    seems like the accountants finally decided the cost of putting on another competition will still be less than the money people will pay to see a few more popular clubs in another match during the year
     
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    If it was this season you'd have Burnley against the champions of Malta, or something, at half 3 on a November afternoon. The thing with UEFA they've done everything possible to make the Europa League second rate. They'll do everything to make this third rate.

    It's been sold as more of a chance and opportunity for the lesser leagues but the team who typically finishes 7th in England, Spain, Italy or Germany are going to beat the champions of a minnow country every day of the week and will dominate the competition between them. Like with the CL rejects going into EL, why even invite them? You'll just get a Sevilla type side who dominate EL2 like with the EL.
     
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    Esentially a glorified Intertoto by the sounds of it...
     
  10. Flip Duckling

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    It's one for the clubs that don't have a chance otherwise. I think it's good to give the smaller nations a chance to win something.
     
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    The big favourites will be the Prem or La Liga etc team that finish 7th and enter, same as the likes of Seville dominate the Europa League.
     
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    As long as they take it seriously.
     
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    I think they would because it's the chance for them to win something. If you're the 7th place team in one of the big leagues, you don't want to have to play 14 games just to face Chelsea in the last 16 of the Europa League and have a nightmare league season without the squad to cope with the extra schedule.

    It's good in that way for those teams.
     
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    Not necessarily. A lot will prioritise league safety ahead of a gruelling cup competition.
     
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    The things Uefa do to ensure united are still in Europe!
     
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    Yeah, but typically a team like Everton will finish 7th (if not one of the big 6) and because this competition is weaker they could still be half arsed about it and get to the knockouts because a weakened side will still beat a side from Malta or wherever. Then from the last 16 they'll start taking it serious.

    As it stands now you have to get through three qualifying rounds just to enter the Europa League if you finish 7th and then 6 more group games just to get to the last 32.
     
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    was one of the fun things about the old European cup clubs playing matches in the competition in different countries like malta, Bulgaria, Iceland etc.

    certainly the format of the old European cup was less complex than the champions league is today i.e. 32 then 16 then 8 then 4 then 2 then one team.
     
  18. Kirby

    Kirby Wilf, Andros, Meyer Your defence is terrified

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    'When Luka Milivojevic goes up, to lift the 2021/22 Europa League 2 Cup' does have a nice ring to it.
     
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