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FF All Time XI - Left Wingers Quarter Finals: Ryan Giggs vs. Rivaldo

Discussion in 'FF All Time XI' started by kaboose, Jul 3, 2017.

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Who is the better Left Winger?

Poll closed Jul 5, 2017.
  1. Ryan Giggs

    7 vote(s)
    63.6%
  2. Rivaldo

    4 vote(s)
    36.4%
  1. kaboose

    kaboose Klopp is the beat.

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  2. kaboose

    kaboose Klopp is the beat.

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    I had this argument with some drafters a long time ago. Giggs was great on the left for his entire career. Rivaldo is clearly the better player though. Giggs never won a Balon d'Or while playing on the left like Rivaldo did.
     
  3. Muller

    Muller I like using gifs

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    I voted Giggs for trophies and longevity.
     
  4. kaboose

    kaboose Klopp is the beat.

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    Giggs played from 1990-2014
    Rivaldo played from 1991-2015
     
  5. Muller

    Muller I like using gifs

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    Ok longevity at the top level you dick :D
     
  6. kaboose

    kaboose Klopp is the beat.

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    Didn't realize you were such a United fan. C*nt.
     
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    Muller I like using gifs

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    Oh I am a massive red devil mate...Cantona...Fergie...Giggsy are my religion.
     
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  8. Minty

    Minty Carpe Diem

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    Giggs was the better winger and is underrated.
     
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    PorkchopExpress The Blackfish

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    Rivaldo is the better player, but Giggs is the better winger imo, and arguably had a better season that Rivaldo in 1999. I think none of our players won the 99 Ballon D'Or simply because they were all amazing.
     
  10. kaboose

    kaboose Klopp is the beat.

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    @MullereD @King_Kenny @Ollie @The Red Viper @Adam @StillHurts31 @Joga bonito

    Do you see what this goober just said?
     
  11. Andy-gers1

    Andy-gers1 Mike <3 Shane
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    I remember a debate on what's App when you claimed Rivaldo was a better winger than Giggs Kaboose :whistle
     
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    Rivaldo had a higher peak level but Giggs was at his peak for much longer and is an underrated player.
     
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    A 4-4-2 formation is the only time I'd consider Giggsy anywhere near Rivaldo. In a 4-2-3-1 its Rivaldo every time!
     
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    prolifik Daniel James >>>

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    I would have categorised Rivaldo as an attacking midfielder rather than a left winger. His best attributes aren't really used in that role.

    Also I don't think playing on the left of a front three makes you a "winger" necessarily. Ronaldinho played the exact same role for the exact same club and I've never seen him described as a winger.
     
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    I've always thought of Ronaldinho as a winger.
     
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    I understand that name is only to have a reference not to speak of a specific position.
    I really like the terminology in english because it refers to the main function and certainly there are many different players for the sides.

    side-midfielder = David Beckham, Mauro Camoranesi, Robert Pirés, Fredrik Ljungberg ...
    wing = Stanley Matthews, Ryan Giggs, Francisco Gento, Luis Figo, Joaquín ...
    wing-forward = Garrincha, George Best, Jairzinho, Dragan Dzajic, Arjen Robben, Franck Ribery ...
    side-forward = Cristiano Ronaldo, Hristo Stoichkov, Omar Sívori, Neymar, Lionel Messi, Allan Simonsen, when Rummenigge, Henry, Villa, Mandzukic played by the sides.
    side-attacking midfielder = Pavel Nedved, also Ljungberg, when Isco plays by the sides, Zinedine Zidane in Real Madrid from 2002-2005 ...
    side-mediapunta/trequartista = Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Zbigniew Boniek, when James, Juan Mata, Henrik Mkhitaryan play by the side, Marco Reus..

    In my opinion the side midfielders, wings and wing-forwards I include them in a general category of wingers ... the side-forward in the category of forwards.

    By the way ... CR7 played as wing from 2002-2007, as wing-forward from 2007-2009, as side-forward from 2009-2013.

    Lionel Messi played as wing-forward from 2006-2008, as side-forward from 2008-2010 and from 2015 until today he has played as side-mediapunta/trequartista and side-attacking midfielder.
     
  18. kaboose

    kaboose Klopp is the beat.

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    Ryan Giggs somehow beats a much better player than him to advance!
     

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