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Keir Starmer next PM

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by johnnyT, Apr 29, 2020.

  1. DonnyOsmond

    DonnyOsmond I. R. BABOON

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    I have noticed the right wing press seem to be now turning on Boris. I think that's affecting polls more than anything.
     
  2. King_Kenny

    King_Kenny JUSTICE FOR THE 97!

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    Just in time for christmas....Tory Monopoly!!!

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  3. King_Kenny

    King_Kenny JUSTICE FOR THE 97!

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    Well, well, well

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  4. StretfordEnd

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    Yet another open goal turned into an own goal by Starmer then?
     
  5. The Doc

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    Well done Alex Nunns on putting Corbyn loyalty first and highlighting this :fail:

    Sometimes the Tories don't even have to do any work to deflect.
     
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  6. Papa Francesco

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    Was going to say this. Sometimes it is like the left doesn't actually have any desire to be in power, just want to appear to be the most righteous in the room.
     
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    If you're in a faction further to the left (Owen Jones type of camp) they basically seem to view Starmer as a Tory so they will campaign against both in almost the same way until Corbyn or someone similar comes back.
     
  8. Papa Francesco

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    Just seems to play into the Tories hands for me. Is Starmer my ideal leader of the Labour party? Absolutely not. Would I rather have him in power than any Tory? Absolutely.
     
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    Dez Likely to cause offence.

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    I'm starting to think Corbynistas want perpetual Tory rule.
     
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  10. DonnyOsmond

    DonnyOsmond I. R. BABOON

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    I think it's no different to the center of the party sabotaging Corbyn around the previous elections. There seems to always be a divide.

    Me personally, I'm not keen on Starmer, however my voting intentions depend on how the polls look close to the time. If Labour have a chance, then I'd rather someone I'm not keen on then an actual clown remain in power. If the polls show the Tories have a sizeable lead then I'll probably go Green.
     
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    It is no different whatsoever, but some folk like like to turn a blind eye when it does not fit with their point of view, and there's been infighting in the Labour Party, long before either Starmer or Corbyn. We're stuck with it while ever there's FPTP, and if that's the case people have every right to vote for who they see fit in any election.
     
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    I don't think it is any different and it was just as self-destructive then as it will be now :shrug
     
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    Agreed. No lessons learned. Let's moan about Tory rule but continue to hamper any chance of doing anything about it because it fits our ideology. Tit for tat nonsense that in the long run is holding the country back.

    All the rhetoric about the people at the bottom being kept there, these behaviors do not help in anyway shape or form.
     
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    While there’s no doubt those numbers are soft, it’s nice to see something FINALLY effect the way people seemingly view the Tory’s in the polls
     
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    Arkwright Barnsleytilidie

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    Good god, when Corbyn looking miles better than Smarmer, you know Labour are in deep shit.:sick:
    Proper Labour isn't Corbyn or Starmer.
     
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    Like or loathe Starmer, the Tories are destined for another 4 years with opinions like this floating about. Surely any Labour government is better than none?
     
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    More accurately, any elected UK government is better than Johnson's chumocracy of sleaze.
     
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    I'm a l;ifelong Labour voter/supporter/trade unionist but that doesn't mask my disdain for how the Labour movement has been allowed to be taken over by plastic career socialists on one side and lunatic crusading marxists on the other. I dont want the Tories either, but this shite is of Labour's own making.....And loathe Starmer I do, same as I do any other Tory, he's awful.
     
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    Isn't it for the greater good to set aside your gripes with Starmer to get these sleazy ****ers out though? Surely a bad meal is better than no meal.

    Old Labour vs. Corbynista vs. everyone in-between squabbles make the party look as unelectable as it was under Corbyn.
     

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