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Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by Tomohawk, Apr 24, 2019.
You could always spoil your ballot
Would you also go for a electoral collage system so that the less populated areas get more representation than the more populated areas?
No, I don't like that either really. I would assign seats to each region/county so that each MPs is elected by a similar number of votes.
R.I.P UKIP , I totally forgot they had majority of the council here during the Farage era, lost all 33 seats meaning Labour and Tories made some gains (25 Conservatives, 20 Labour).
Good news is Independents got a few more seats at the table this time.
What about yourself? Are you happy with our current voting system? What changes would you like to see?
Hhhmmm well the current system isn't great at all, but they all have issues imo, and it makes it hard to say either way, it's a bit of a devil that you know situation for me.
I think the Brexit voter has either stayed at home or voted on local issues given the Brexit party didn't stand and UKIP without Farage are like Queen without Freddie. I think only hardened remainers have factored Brexit into their vote today. Looking too much into Brexit is probably a red herring. The Tories have been battered on competence like in 1996 and Labour as divided as they are haven't made in roads like they did then and Lib Dems have mopped up.
I can only speak for my own ward but Brexit not a factor at all in the campaign or on the doorstep. It's all local issues and mine is a big remain constituency
It's the Euro elections that genuinely are about Brexit and will be a Brexit Remain showdown.
Has anybody managed to find solid nationwide turnout figures? I've managed to find some local figures such as parts of Hull only having 13% turnout but strangely the papers are awfully quiet about the national figure.
Possibly, strange though as there's a large Asian contingent here, and the Tory councillor was ALSO Asian, so if the racists are voting Asians in, they're stupider than originally thought.
It's always low anyway for local elections, but i'd imagine especially so this year.
People vote in these elections on local issues, not many people will be bothered enough about it to get out and vote.
Turnout in none GE years averages at around 30% IIRC, I'd be surprised if it was much north of 25%, which will also include a larger number of spoilt ballots, but I want to know the hard facts!
I'd go STV. Most people would do Cons to LD or Labour to LD, so it would help get a third party in. PR results in too much of a mix, with coalitions of 3+ parties that don't work.
There's no reason why you can't combine an electoral college with the proportional method that @JTC77 talked about. Although, it might be too much of a change for the country of the Parliament.
That is what I was suggesting yes.
Vince Incapable claiming "Every vote for The Lib Dems is a vote against Brexit" Is it f*ck they were protest votes to punish The Tories and Labour and come The European Elections Brexit supporters will have a party to vote for.
Brexit Party will piss GE if we have one before Brexit.
i just read over 30,000 ballot papers were spoiled some with very rude messages.
Another UKIP splinter group, ran by a man who claimed a gay donkey raped his horse, Democrats and Veterans won two seats in Barnsley.
Makes me think if there was an actual Brexit party standing in most areas it would have been even more of a wash out for the big two.
Also a lot of these independents elected were people who won under the UKIP banner last time and clearly proved to be rather capable councillors.
The Thurrock Independents are one stark example of this.
I think the brexit party are gonna get a lot of seats in the coming EU elections, could see the Tories get as low as 10% I think