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Manchester United vs Ajax - Europa League Final

Discussion in 'Uefa Champions League & Europa League' started by Flip Duckling, May 11, 2017.

  1. A Gooner

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    Mourinho has only ever lost one final. He just knows how to win. United 2-0.
     
  2. The Doc

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    We didn't.

    Fair enough, you struggled against Plymouth too. Are you suggesting the gap between Ajax and United is bigger than the gap between the team you played and Plymouth?

    Ajax will be playing their 54th game of the season and will be coming in it on the back of ten days rest.

    We will be on our 64th game having played 4 times in the ten days up to the final.

    Factoring injuries I fully expect to get turned over.
     
  3. Tux der Pinguin

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    If Manchester United wins EL, winner of Czech Cup will play in group phase of next EL. And it can be team from second division Opava.

    opava vs zlin - Google-Suche
     
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    It's the equivalent of a Europa League group game though. You take the games more seriously as the competition progresses. We basically had a bunch of kids out against Plymouth who'd barely played first team football (and barely played together) against a team of seasoned pros who were tough to break down. We did enough in the end.

    United knew they could lose at Feyenoord and Fenerbache and go through anyway. When they needed to win they took it more seriously and got the result.

    If you were playing something of a leading European side, with a decent recent European pedigree (as you'd expect to in a final) i'd be inclined to agree. We had a similar run of games before playing Sevilla but they were a seasoned European side who'd won the previous two Europa Leagues under Emery. Pogba would cost way more than Ajax's entire squad and his wages (or Rooney's or Ibra's) would pay for most of the salaries of the team they'll have out next week, if not even all of them.
     
  5. Flip Duckling

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    Not sure how the money point at the end has any relevance to the quality of an Ajax team that promotes their own youth players, or how Paul Pogba costing so much justifies our team being better than theirs. Ridiculous.
     
  6. ritchie_50

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    If you've got one player (actually more) earning more money on his own than probably most of the whole Ajax team put together then in a big game you should be able to beat that team.

    United's wage bill will be around 10 x that of Ajax's.
     
  7. Flip Duckling

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    What? That's ludicrous. Of course we're the favourites and are expected to win, but to suggest that because we have a player on a lot of money we should beat them is just dumb. That's not how football works.
     
  8. The Doc

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    :laugh: Nope. Ludicrous.

    And again ludicrous :laugh:

    You know football doesn't work like that.
     
  9. StretfordEnd

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    So by that logic (ie. wages/talent pro rata) that one United player should be able to beat Ajax on his own, because he earns as much as their entire team? :hmmm
     
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    It's a basic point that when there's that much of a disparity financially between the two teams/clubs that United have to be huge favourites.

    Maybe less so if Ajax had a freakishly good team for their budget (i.e. Monaco this season) but they haven't even won a Dutch league which is a minor league now.
     
  11. StillHurts31

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    They did have to contend with Dirk tbf.
     
  12. The Doc

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    But you are just concentrating on one factor alone :shrug:

    What about form?

    What about them having 10 days rest whilst we play 4 games?

    What a about injuries?





    Etc.

    Though I suspect you are fully aware of these things. ;)
     

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