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My new European ECL format

Discussion in 'Uefa Champions League & Europa League' started by colinthfc, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. colinthfc

    colinthfc Registered User

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    I would reduce ECL from 8 groups of 4 to 7 groups. Group winners go to the super 14 knock out stage. Top 4 runners up also qualify. Bottom 3 runners up play top 3 third teams in a 1 match play off. Super 14 winners - 7 would go into quarter finals.

    Abolish Europa League - bring back EUFA Cup, but seeded. 128 teams 2 legged knock outs. Final end of February. Winner gets final quarter final place in ECL.

    Someone could win EUFA Cup & ECL in same season

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    Id like the Champions League/European Cup to be reduced to simply the Champions of National leagues and European Cup/Champions league holders

    Id also like the Cup Winners Cup trophy back as well.
     
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    Agreed, id much rather see a condensed version of the tournament.
    Winners from the top 8 leagues in europe get into the champions league. Then it's either :
    1) 2 legged knockout tournament
    2) 2 groups of 4 winners go to the final
    3) 2 groups of 4, winners and runners up go through to semi final
    4) 1 group of 8 with home and away legs
     
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    Robert Heenan Registered User

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    Id rather have the old version of the European Cup with knock-out rounds and only the league winners in the tournament. This would give as much prestige to the UEFA Cup and Cup Winners Cup.

    The 2 groups of 4 winners and runners up going through to the semis sounds good too.
     
  6. Arkwright

    Arkwright Barnsleytilidie

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    Terrible idea from an organisation motivated purely by money!
     
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  7. colinthfc

    colinthfc Registered User

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    My model is the best of both worlds

    ECL is stronger - reduced to 28 teams

    Winning group is important

    Only the top 2nd places qualify as of right

    Best 3rd places get a play of chance

    4th place is a nightmare meaning 12 months out of the tournament

    The EUFA Cup has a mega prize for the winner - the final ECL quarter final place

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  8. Donnyrovers90

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    Shouldn't be able to finish 3rd and still go through
     
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    It keeps all matches meaningful

    No dead rubbers

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    Makes the football extremely negative and boring
     
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    Taffy The memories will never fade. Cheers lads.

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    Maybe we could have all four teams qualify just incase there is a dead rubber. :fail:
     
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    Champions League would be fine if they stopped rigging the draws making the same match ups every ****ing year.
     
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  13. PorkchopExpress

    PorkchopExpress He's super strong, and super naked!

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    The UEFA Cup would be harder to win than the CL.

    A nice balance of two teams for the top 16 leagues like in the late 90s would be best for CL. That will give a better mix of teams without losing the competitiveness of the competition.

    CWC would be nice, although again would be quite weak most years.
     
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    Winners of the top 32 UEFA leagues go to the CL, no qualifying rounds, just the winners of the top 32 leagues in the Co-Efficient.

    Winners of leagues outside the top 32 go to the EL joined by runners up and/or second, third and fourth placed teams depending on their respective league's rankings. Possible qualifying rounds needed to reduce the number of teams for the group stage.
     
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    ..... while reffing in Real Madrid's favour so we get another La Liga final!. Bayern were robbed on Tuesday night.
     
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  16. Andrew

    Andrew Broken leg stuff

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    That would just make it shit though, you would have the champions of Moldova and Bosnia in the group stages.
     
  17. Arkadiusz

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    In my opinion, merging CL and EL would be beneficial. Teams from weaker federations would raise their football and financial level. Besides, some teams in CL are not better then those playing in EL.


    As an example, there will be reported 236 teams from 55 federations in season 2017/2018.
    My proposal is a 96-team cup. 96 teams would be drawn into 16 groups of 6 in the following way:
    - 20 teams finished the first place from 1-20 federations,
    - 8 teams finished the second place from 1-8 federations,
    - 4 teams finished the third place from 1-4 federations,
    - 32 teams from 1-20 federations being winners of eliminations,
    - 32 teams from 21-55 federations being winners of eliminations.
    Each team would play 5 matches in the groups, that is to say one match with each team on neutral venues.
    Two teams from the each group would qualify to the 1/16 round. The teams from the first place would be seeded.
    Matches in single-elimination tournament would be played as a two-legged tie.



    Below you find exemplary groups based on my assumptions. I encourage you to discuss my proposal.



    Group A: Real Madrid, Vitorul Constanta, Club Brugge, Lazio, Malmoe, Kukesi
    Group B: Bayern, Copenhagen, Basaksehir, Arsenal, H. Beer Sheva, Dundalk
    Group C: Chelsea, BATE, Viktoria Plzen, Cologne, Celtic, Zrinjski Mostar
    Group D: Juventus, Legia, Young Boys, Villareal, APOEL, Samtredia
    Group E: Monaco, Barcelona, Ajax, Soligorsk, Rosenborg, Spartaks
    Group F: Spartak Moscow, Lipsk, AEK, Lyon, Qarabag, Vardar
    Group G: Benfica, Tottenham, Austria Wien, Brondby, Ludogorets, Infonet
    Group H: Szachtar, Roma, Dinamo Zagreb, Hertha Berlin, Budapest Honvest, Dudelang
    Group I: Anderlecht, PSG, Sevilla, Jagiellonia, Astana, Alahskert
    Group J: Besiktas, CSKA Moscow, Hoffenheim, Steaua Bucarest, Maribor, Buducnost Podgorica
    Group K: Slavia Praha, Porto, Liverpool, Krasnodar, Marieham, Linfield
    Group L: Basel, Dinamo Kijev, Atalanta, Guimares, Vaduz, Zalgris
    Group M: Feyenoord, Atletico Madrid, Nice, Olimpia Doneck, Partizan, Hibernians
    Group N: Olympiakos, Borussia Dortmund, Zenit, Manchester United, Tiraspol, The New Saints
    Group O: Salzburg, Manchester City, Sporting Lisbon, Milan, Hafnarfjodur, Vikingur
    Group P: Rijeka, Napoli, Zorya, Sociedad, Zilina, Europa
     
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  18. Arkadiusz

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    Another my proposal is a 64-team cup, which would be even better option. 64 teams would be drawn into 16 groups of 4 in the following way:
    - 16 the first-place teams from 1-16 federations,
    - 16 the second-place teams from 1-16 federations,
    - 32 teams from 1-55 federations being winners of qualifications.

    There would be 4 stages of the qualifications: 1 stage - 64 matches, 2 stage - 44 matches, 3 stage - 32 matches, 4 stage - 32 matches.
    The "higher-place teams" would be seeded in the each stage. As an example, 8 the third-place teams from 1-8 federations, 8 the fourth-place teams from 1-8 federations, 8 the first-place teams from 17-24 federations, 8 the second-place teams from 17-24 federations would play only in the last stage and would be seeded.
    The seeded team might play only against "the same- or lower place-team" i.e. the fourth place team from 1-8 federation might play against the fourth-place team from 9-16 federation or the fifth-place team from 1-8 federation.

    Each team would play 6 matches in the group stage, that is to say a two-legged tie with each team.
    Two teams from the each group would qualify to the 1/16 round. The first-place teams would be seeded.
    Matches in the single-elimination tournament would be played as one match on a neutral venue.

    Below you will find exemplary groups based on my assumptions. I assumed all seeded teams would qualify to the group stage. I encourage you to discuss my proposal.

    Group A: Real Madrid, Dinamo Kijev, Lyon, Vitorul Constanta

    Group B: Bayern, Porto, Krasnodar, Copenhagen

    Group C: Chelsea, CSKA Moscow, Guimares, BATE

    Group D: Juventus, PSG, Olimpik Donetsk, Legia

    Group E: Monaco, Roma, Zorya, Malmoe

    Group F: Spartak Moscow, Tottenham, Sporting, H. Beer Sheva

    Group G: Benfica, Leipzig, Zenit, Celtic

    Group H: Szachtar, Barcelona, Nice, APOEL

    Group I: Anderlecht, Dinamo Zagreb, Napoli, Steaua Bucarest

    Group J: Besiktas, Austria Wien, Manchester City, Broendby

    Group K: Slavia Praha, AEK Athens, Borussia Dortmund, Soligorsk

    Group L: Basel, Ajax, Atletico Madrid, Jagiellonia

    Group M: Feyenoord, Young Boys, Sevilla, AIK Solna

    Group N: Olympiakos, Viktoria Plzen, Hoffenheim, M. Tel Aviv

    Group O: Salzburg, Basaksehir, Liverpool, Aberdeen

    Group P: Rijeka, Club Brugge, Atalanta, AEK Larnaca
     
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