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Discussion in 'Welsh Football' started by islandranger, Apr 4, 2017.

  1. islandranger

    islandranger Registered User

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    strong rumours on Anglesey that Prestatyn won't get their licence for some reason could be just windups to give Caernarfon hope though.
    Thursday will reveal all and I wonder if Bangor will get through it without the licenced manager.
     
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    Interesting to see what happens to the Welsh League applicants, also how the WPL will react if two clubs with 3G pitches are relegated.
     
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    rumours were just that after all and Prestatyn got their licence so looks like them and Barry promoted and Airbus and one other relegated.
    Rhyl didn't get a UEFA licence this time so no European games hosted there this season.
    Pity about the Cofi's and a reminder that they should have ticked the boxes last year as next season with two Premier clubs coming down and 3 strong sides coming up too it may be their chance has gone for the immediate future.
     
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    Island,do Caernarfon actually want promotion ? They wouldn't be the first club to "avoid" promotion due to traveling and costs etc.
     
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    Caernarfon did not get a domestic licence last year due to their failure to correctly register the legal entity through which the club traded. Earlier this month the Cofis' licence application was successful, but of course they only finished runners-up to Prestatyn.

    It has historically been clubs from the Welsh League who have declined promotion or not even applied for a licence. This has contributed towards WPL membership being dominated by clubs from the North, although with Airbus and Rhyl both relegated to the Cymru Alliance, the South's complement will increase to three next season if Welsh League leaders Barry are promoted.
     
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    Many years ago Merthyr Tydfil hang on in the conference before their troubles have they shown any interest in climbing back ?
     
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    After Merthyr went bust the Welsh FA gave permission for a phoenix club to play in the English system. The new Merthyr started in the Western League and are currently in 3rd place in the Southern League Premier Division, guaranteed a playoff place with one game remaining.
     
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    Is this because the Welsh FA can no long-term stop clubs joining a "foreign" football league i/e the English league system ? Also what is the view regarding say clubs like Wrexham,Shrewsbury etc applying to join the WPL and entering a youth or reserve side into the league ? A positive move or mickey taking the WPL ? I a
     
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    I don't know why the FAW allowed Merthyr to reform in the English league possibly because historically they always played there, but it didn't stop them trying to prevent others. Some caved in Bangor, Rhyl, Caernarfon etc and others forced the issue, Colwyn Bay for one.
    Who knows how these decisions are made.
    As for reserve or youth sides I believe the UEFA rules prevent this in a national premier league, probably the same for so called foreign based clubs like Shrewsbury.
    I can see an argument for all non league Welsh sides to move into the national pyramid, but Swansea and Cardiff is unlikely these days, that boat has sailed some years ago
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    What do you mean regarding "non league Welsh sides"?
     
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    Not in the UK at the moment but has The WPL finished apart from the Welsh Cup ? Barry and Prestatyn up Airbus and Rhyl relegated ?
     
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    Still got the playoffs: Bangor v Newtown and Carmarthen v Cardiff Met.
     
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    Any team not in the English leagues 1-4 , Conference level downwards I class as non league
    So Wrexham, Newport, Merthyr,Colwyn Bay,
    & while we are at it Oswestry is in England so sort that one too
     
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    A bit presumptious to relegate Newport to the Conference now they are out of the relegation places after winning six out of their last ten.
     
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    Fair enough then if they stay up leave them in the English league for now
     
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    One for you Island and it,s not football,but i have on the BBC website that the railway station at Llangefni could actually re-open can you add any news ? Thanks.
     
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    In the absence of our resident Anglesey pundit, the piece on the BBC Wales Politics website is encouraging. Most of the 12 sites shortlisted for more detailed feasibility studies are on lines currently operating.

    Llangefni was an intermediate station on the former Amlwch branch, closed to passengers in the 1960's but retained for freight traffic for many years afterwards, mainly to service the tanker terminal at Amlwch. The track remains in situ.

    If Llangefni were to reopen, it would mean reinstating the short section from the main line at Gaerwen and operating a branch line with Llangefni as the terminus. If implemented, the reopening could provide impetus for proposals to run a heritage railway on the remainder of the line to the north.

    I look forward to football specials bringing supporters to watch their teams at Llangefni Town's Cae Bob Parry....or perhaps not?
     
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    Thanks,any gut feeling ? We have many wonderful holidays on the Island,Cemaes just love it.
     
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    I like railways, a civilised way to travel, except the long haul to Cardiff, but Llangefni as a destination is not mind blowing and would it really attract tourists. It was still carrying trains into the 90's I think
    I do recall there used to be a branch line to Benllech as well, but long before my time and long gone now..
    On a football matter I was disappointed to see Llangefni miss out on promotion on goals scored despite their best efforts, maybe next year.
    Anyone know why Glantraeth declined promotion despite meeting the criteria? I see little point in spending a lot of money 'supposedly' on players at that level and just wanting to be the biggest fish in a puddle.
    Also surprising that Llandudno Junction ground meets criteria, it hardly even a park, you can watch from the pavement or the kids play area.
     
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    As the passenger service to Red Wharf Bay and Benllech ceased in 1930 and freight ended in 1950, it was before my time as well. :laugh:
    However, the Holland Arms, after which the junction station from the Amlwch line was named, remains.

    Here's what the Welsh Alliance website had to say about Glantraeth on 16 May:

    Glantraeth have decided not to accept promotion to the huws gray alliance

    The club have issued the following statement:


    In the past we have always accepted promotion from the Welsh Alliance and have enjoyed considerable success at the higher level, it was then a comparatively easy decision to make. However, it is now a whole new ballgame with the huge changes to the criteria for membership of the Huws Gray Alliance that have been introduced.
    A 250 seater stand as required within two years is simply not possible on our privately owned ground, that is a fact, so accepting promotion would mean making a big commitment but with no long term future in the higher league as we would be relegated back to the Welsh Alliance no matter what our league position due to not meeting the ground criteria as specified by the FAW.
    That would be an indignity in itself and hardly registers as progress. It would not give us the kind of stability we want so have decided we would be better served by continuing to operate and build as a Welsh Alliance club.
    We have notified both leagues of our decision.

    Glantraeth secretary Stan Strickland added:
    We might be accused of lacking ambition but this is a dilemma that many clubs in the Welsh Alliance are going to have to face in future if they finish in a promotion position.
    Our landowner Iolo Owen has generously allowed us to play on his land for over thirty years. He has allowed us to develop a tidy little ground that more than satisfies the kind of crowds we get and has in the past comfortably accommodated up to 500 for Welsh Cup ties against Rhyl for example but erecting a 250 seat stand that will rarely see more than twenty seated spectators is a step too far. There would verge on a seat for every person in the village!
    The FAW have introduced these changes at Tier 2 level to bring the ground criteria closer to the Welsh Premier League and they are no doubt under pressure from UEFA but there is a real danger of a huge gap developing resulting in what will effectively be a two tier pyramid divorced from the rest.
    We have spoken to many clubs in our league and those views are shared by most who are unable or unwilling to meet the revised ground criteria either because of the prohibitive cost to clubs even after allowing for grant funding or through taking the view that the requirements are well out of proportion to the size of their supporter base. The word 'ridiculous' has been used more than once!
    Accepting promotion would mean being involved in a league knowing we will be forcibly relegated no matter how well we perform on the pitch because we are not able to meet the ground criteria. Why should we subject ourselves to that?
    There is still much to look forward to in the Welsh Alliance. We still have hopes of one day winning the FAW Trophy, the Mawddach Cup (formerly the Barritt Cup) continues to evade us, there is still the Welsh Cup and there could be as many as 11 Anglesey clubs in the league next season making for strong local rivalry that always attracts good crowds.
    We appreciate there will be disappointment after all we have achieved this season. Some of our players will be happy to continue in the Welsh Alliance while others are ambitious to play at a higher level. We respect that and accept that some might leave but I believe the decision we have made is the right one for the club.
     

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