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Southend United magical mystery non-league tour

Discussion in 'Non-League Football' started by Kim Mitten, May 1, 2021.

  1. NotsoPosh

    NotsoPosh Small Fry against The Big Fish

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    Were any of you at Solihull yesterday & accosting Ron Martin with a few choice words ?

    Didn't realise how bad your actually doing on the pitch , need to ditch Mr Orange or is that Brown !!!
     
  2. Tigerferry

    Tigerferry Hull City is our name

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    Gary Johnson and Phil Brown have been going down the leagues at roughly the same pace. Goes to show how much football can change.

    Will always love Brownie despite his ego taking over near the end here, but his managerial career seems to be over.
     
  3. Kim Mitten

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    Oh yes, I was there and if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed what had gone on. I'll copy and paste what I wrote on the matchday bit:

    First half someone spotted Ron Martin up in one of those 'boxes' on that two tiered stand to the right of the terrace behind the goal. Nobody believed him but he had a photo, so said, really, there he is, look.
    Up to this point it was a strange atmosphere, no singing, no chanting, we were all just chatting amongst ourselves, even the wanna be rude boyz with the big drum were just going back and forth from the bar. Then the 'Martin Out' and 'Martin's a wanker' chants start.
    2nd half and there's Ron, sitting in plain sight, so all the chants from the away end and not just a few voices, the entire away end, are anti-Ron.
    All of a sudden, someone shouts - he's coming down those stairs and there he was, bowling into the away terrace, with 4 coppers trying to stop him!
    When I saw him I thought, maybe he's come to talk, say something, anything, to placate the mob. But no, he just stood there, glaring and sneering at people, at one point making a 'come on' gesture at as. This was the point the coppers had seen enough and ushered him away. As he passed the bloke next to me threw his burger/hot dog (whatever he had) at him and told him to '****ing do one', sadly it missed. He got the Ron glare.
    Now for the highlight, he went back up the stairs from whence he came, but Ron had gone out a fire door and couldn't get back in. There he stood, in the rain, whilst the supporters of the club he owns all chanted in unison 'WANKER WANKER WANKER'.

    There is a video on Twitter and other places, short one and a longer one somewhere of the whole thing. Seems to have done the rounds, especially when a certain French friend of mine messages me late last night saying - I think I see you in this video! and it's from a French football blog thing, about a non-league English club whose owner is going to take on the supporters. I think at this point the only person actually watching the game was my eldest son!
    I still can't believe it actually happened, a 70 year old man tried to incite a crowd. I'm hoping it can unite our fanbase a bit to start doing constructive things to remove him from the club, I doubt it, but I can hope. Right now we are Bury FC, the majority of our fans don't want to know and we are a dead club just waiting to be put out of our misery.

    As for Phil Brown, the issues off the pitch remain and until Ron leaves or decides he won't interfere with every facet of the club it won't matter who's in charge of on the field issues. I've spoken to the players this season, we still have issues but they all seem to get on well and say training is going well. Everyone to a man yesterday, that I spoke to, said they wanted Phil Brown to remain in charge.

    FA Cup 4th Qualifying draw tomorrow, could be a real low if we get a Bowers & Pitsea, Peterborough Sports or a Yate Town, cos we'll be losing that. I'd go to a game like that, cos I'm starting to think I might be a sadist, but other than that I'll not be watching Southend until the end of November at Grimsby and Altrincham away.
     
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  4. NotsoPosh

    NotsoPosh Small Fry against The Big Fish

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    I saw it on Fan Banter .

    Give him his do he had a bit of bottle to come down & you could see the atmosphere getting more toxic by the second .

    P'boro Sports would probably turn you over atm , score goals for fun although concede plenty .

    Good luck for the season & hope you get some kind of stability & or Ron sells up etc...

    Is a new ground still on the agenda ?
     
  5. Kim Mitten

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    Anybody would turn us over at the moment. Think Bedfont Sports got a replay and are the lowest ranked side left in the draw, they would beat us.

    The pipe dream of the ground is why Ron clings on. The latest plans were supposed to be passed, so work could commence, by the council late last year, early this year. It hasn't happened.
    There are various supporters group meetings and one of the things I've put forward and a few others is to start petitioning the council against the new stadium, start ramping up our objections to try and kill the plans once and for all. The aim of that would be to put Ron in a position where him owning the club becomes non-viable to his scheme. His grand plan is to walk away with houses built on Roots Hall and at the new stadium site, raking him in millions a year. If we can scupper the stadium he can still make money with houses on the new site but he wouldn't be able to do anything with Roots Hall.
    When he does go I expect him to do a Kassam, he'll sell the club and then charge a stupid rent amount to the new owners. But like Oxford at least he'll be gone.
     
  6. NotsoPosh

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    We've had a new ground muted since 2018 , DMac & the other 2 Canadian based co owners re bought London Road from the council for £5.5 million & had earmarked a brand new shiny one on the Embankment area nearer to the City Centre .

    We'd been in competition with the new Anglia Ruskin University who lost out and are now building their new shiny building on the site of the Old Wirrina car park & it's going up very quickly & students should be in in September 2022 however we've hit lots of snags , the Green party complaining that there's not enough green space in the centre of P'boro , the Labour party , if it were a cricket ground would be totally different & the general nimby's .

    Our new shiny ( probably souless bowl ) should be open for the start of 2023/24 season we were originally told , the newest estimation I've seen today is 2030 , millionaires eh , full of sh*t !!!
     
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    Your ground is already pretty central and do you really need a new one? If it's for corporate and other revenue streams I would have thought there is enough land around the current ground to do something about that.

    The 4th qualifying draw for the FA Cup didn't disappoint, Southend v Chertsey. Be nice if we can scrape a replay so I can go to their ground. I'll more than likely attend the game, be the only time I go to Roots Hall this season.
     
  8. NotsoPosh

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    There's no room at all at London Road anymore with all the housing that's going up around it & DMac & cohorts have big plans for ventures with the new university ( Ai ) casino , shopping experience , concerts , conferences which will be the main £ earner under the guise of a football club .

    We have half a modernish stadium & half a 1950's shambles , to go forward fan base wise a new stadium would help , a couple of examples in Donny & Rotherham saw their fan base increase just need Championship football something that'll probably last for this season until we're back in our rightful League 1 domain .

    What home crowds are you getting in the Conference & are people deliberately boycotting & just doing away days ?
     
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    No boycotting yet, which is a lot of the problem. We have a weak fanbase and as I said before if the club went bust at this moment I wouldn't support a phoenix club because of our fanbase.
    Been getting over 5,000 crowds so far, got about 3,700 season tickets. I'm hoping tomorrow we see a sharp decline in attendance and those that do go start making their voice heard, or disrupt games with beach balls and the like. Our away attendances have been astonishing to be honest, was over 500 there on Saturday. Some of it is the novelty of new grounds and teams and some of it is people, like me, who won't attend home games.
     
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    So some of the 3,342 decided to have a half time pitch invasion on Tuesday night , once these things start they tend to escalate Oldham fans are doing it regularly .
    There was over 9,000 at the Wrexham v Chesterfield match , fair play , more than what we get albeit we have a gobshite US based owner rather than Hollywood wannabe's :D
     
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    Yeah, decent protest, including people on the touchline with a banner when the goal was scored. The attendance was odd cos I'm pretty sure we sold 3700 season tickets and usually announce crowd numbers with them whether they've turned up or not.
    I'm hoping attendance plummets further and those that are there continue to protest. Not even bothering to open 2 stands for the FA Cup game. It's Chertsey's biggest ever game, they could well outnumber home fans!

    As for Wrexham their fans on the other site don't seem to think the floating fans will stick with it if the style of football isn't improved. But then you know most of them are fly-by-night supporters if they are ever expecting a Phil Parkinson side to be playing hollywood football to go with the hollywood owners.
     
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    Proper protests today on the pitch during the game and at the full time whistle. Ron's been digging in saying he wouldn't even sell for £40M. The club is a corpse in a zombie like state and I'm really starting to wonder if there is any coming back.

    Ron then deflected some of the attention by sacking Phil Brown and Craig Fagan straight after the match. I literally don't care who comes in next, we're in a position where unless there are major, major changes to the football club, top to bottom, then who comes in does not matter one iota. Just for the comedy I'd like to see Ron appoint himself as caretaker manager.
     
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  13. Tigerferry

    Tigerferry Hull City is our name

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    Shame about Craig...
     
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    I saw the Zoom Q & A with fans from last week where one fan says " Ron if I win £80 on the Euromillions on Friday would you sell me the club for £40 million " in which Ron replied " No I wouldn't you f*cking idiot "

    You can't call your own fans f*cking idiots , he then rambled on about Southend Council are close to approving a 22,000 new stadium & they're building 500 low rent sustainable houses on the Roots Hall site .

    A 4-0 drubbing today , I can imagine it was toxic .

    Good job you got rid of Brown , well past his sell by date !
     
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    Narh, it really wasn't, another one who was a massive part of the problem.
     
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    The man is a moron. On the same zoom he claimed he 'talked' to us in the away end at Solihull. I can tell you he did no such thing, he just stood there never saying a word.
    I wasn't there today, I went to Erith Town instead, but yeah, of the few I know that went, they said it was more than toxic.
    I've decided to go to the FA Cup game though, I've got my fingers crossed the Chertsey fans outnumber the home fans and we get a replay so I can go to their ground.
     
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    Having had our own experiences with cancerous owners, I would offer some fairly simple advice to our Southend counterparts. Starve Martin out if you have to and resist him in every avenue that is necessary. Be prepared for things to get worse before they get better but know this - until you get Martin out, NOTHING WILL IMPROVE.
     
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    I wish we could, however our fanbase has showed it isn't united in any way, shape or form. We have a large section who think any action is pointless because no one will buy the club, more who think 'better the devil you know.' and yet more who think not continuing to support the club/team is in someway the very worst thing anyone can do.

    I agree though, until he goes we have no hope, we have no hope with him at Roots Hall or if his mythical stadium gets built.
    The other thing I'd find acceptable is if he goes back to having nothing to do with the football side of things. In the early years of his ownership he did this well and actually sorted out our incredibly bad financial situation while letting the football people at the club do the football things and keeping his nose out. It's been a good decade now of him acting like some Roman Dictator and letting no one make any decision on anything without his stamp of approval.
     
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    The similarities between your situation and our previous one are increasingly uncanny. Our old regime survived for years on the basis of various attempts at relocation which never materialised and the attitude of a significant section of the fanbase which had a very similar 'no club without Fenty' mentality. What changed things was when it was revealed that he had invited a convicted fraudster to matches when they were played behind closed doors. That, and the knowledge that there were interested parties, persuaded large sections of the fanbase, myself included, to say no more. There is no way we would be where we are now, packing out Blundell Park again, without that intervention. The brutal truth is that whoever is on the pitch and in the dugout doesn't matter one bit until the disease is dealt with in the boardroom.
     
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    As the Persians/Turks/Chinese/Trawlermen said, "A fish rots from the head."
     
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