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Discussion in 'Premier League Match Threads' started by Steve - Wfc, Oct 14, 2019.
VAR itself isn't the problem
It's the dickheads in the control room who seem to be intentionally trying to wind everyone up by making bad decisions. Just yesterday they made the wrong call on all these:
Watford denied penalty
Tottenham given a goal for handball
Villa goal ruled out for poor goalkeeping
Wolves player dives and gets a penalty
Man City denied clear penalty
Wood denied goal after accidental coming together and Evans was never getting to it anyway
Ours was called correctly.
Well this just proves it wasn't a clear and obvious error ..
Or maybe club bias ?
Some of those decisions were criminal, if i were a cynic id be crying corruption.
Either Poch needs to go or major lineup changes needed. Eriksen, Rose, Alderweireld and Vertoghen need to be benched. I don't care if we lose playing younger guys who will help in the future but I'm sick of seeing the same mistakes from players who obviously don't care.
KWP needs to play. Np clue why Poch refuses to use him when he's our best RB.
At least Lo Celso and Sessegnon will be back soon to give a much needed spark.
I don’t think that’s handball. It’s near enough his shoulder
Its a handball!
Anyway what about the push from Kane on Kabasele as well? Gone unnoticed.
We've been poor this season no two ways about it. However, VAR has cost us at least 4 points with incorrect decisions. Newcastle away and Saturday. Games against Everton and Brighton also saw some pretty obvious calls go against us.
I don't think the issue is with VAR itself, it's the shitty implementation of it and in our case the incompetence of whoever is sat in Stockley park watching our games.
Having said all that, the sooner Foster and Femenia f/o the better. Both liabilities.
Yep. Both at fault.
Foster called for the ball, Femenia then didnt get out of the way. That caused Foster to hesitate.
Foster should get a bit more of the blame though. Keepers are taught to make the ball theirs even if it means taking your own team mate out.
Such a ****ing shame. We can moan about the handball but it was an avoidable situation.
Not in defence of VAR but has it cost you?
Its not overturned decisions against you so if it weren't there those decisions would have stood anyway. No pen or handball based on the ref alone.
Poor refereeing has cost us despite then using video technology.
I wasn't. I'm just saying that VAR hasn't cost you. Shit reffing has.
I suppose you could say it's cost you in that it's not overturned poor decisions but I was thinking along the lines of if it weren't there at all as opposed to it being efficient.
There's also an argument that refs aren't making decisions because VAR is there. Did the ref initially award a corner from the Vert/Deulofeu bondage sesh?
Yeah thats fair enough.
To be honest, I think the ref just bottled giving the penalty and the VAR official probably wanted to protect him.. obviously no way of proving that but that's what I think.
I think he gave a goalkick after bondage sesh, which is even more confusing.
Fwiw I am also surprised the Rose incident in the first half wasn't a penalty. Anywhere else on the pitch and its a foul. Shit officiating all around.
I did say in my original post that the implementation was more of the issue and the inconsistency.
The penalty we could have missed, the handball is hard to take given what we have seen this season already with the fairly strict handball stance.Thought it was as obvious as they could come and a pretty straight forward decision to make.
There is definitely a case of referees now choosing to bottle making a decision as using VAR as some kind of safety net. Smaller clubs will definitely suffer more, it's just the way it is.
Shhhh don't say that, he'll like your post and get a hard on.
It's just piss funny how our learned friend lectured everyone for months on how great VAR would be only to be proven emphatically wrong, even to the point he's now criticising it on your own match threads.
It was never going to work on matters of opinion but the old boy was too stubborn to see it.
Its not VAR its how its implemented.
It worked well in the World Cup. Probably because there were no bottlejob English refs there!
VAR stands for Video Assistant Referee, so yes it is VAR that's the problem.
It's all well and good blaming English referees but I'd love to hear where this magical pot of superior officials is?