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The Brexit Trade deal

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by johnnyT, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. StretfordEnd

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    Or order all petrol stations outside the M25 to close with all petrol and diesel deliveries diverted to London for the forseeable future?
     
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    Dez Likely to cause offence.

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    I don't think Boris would be too happy finding out you've leaked his next policy
     
  3. DaveTHFC

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    Fuel delivered to the two petrol stations which caused issues last week at 7am this morning. The road is at a standstill and all school buses for the 3 schools there have been cancelled and are terminating a mile and a half away. It's also a main route for two other big schools in the area and their buses have been cancelled as they can't get through the traffic! Unbelievable.

    Currently torrential rain too.
     
  4. StretfordEnd

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    I remember the good old days when the police would turn up and direct traffic to prevent situations like this from causing chaos.
     
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    The police turned up when it was at the major supermarkets and told them to marshal it better as queues were going on to the motorway. This would mean employees being on the dual carriageways outside the stores where they're not insured etc and then on those roads cars are jumping red lights and jumping into the queues etc!

    I'm not sure our town has a police force now though. I think they're located in another town with PCSO's attempting to do stuff in ours...
     
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    They're probably too busy deleting WhatsApp messages off their phones right now
     
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    And the next bit on brexit...

    I work in manufacturing.6 months or so ago we were ****ed with all the new brexit import/export procedures. Goods stuck in customs for 2 months on a previous 24/48hr shipping deal. The backlog was huge and companies couldn't deal with it.

    These issues are still happening and often goods are taking 3-6 weeks rather than the previous 2 days. We've had to factor this in to our planning obviously. Also paying a shit load more as we have all the extra fees and I believe a brexit tax on top.

    This week we're also being told to increase that lead time by 2 weeks as even though they can clear customs agents in those 6 weeks, when they hit the distribution centre in the UK they can't get any HGV drivers booked :laugh:

    Thankfully this is only a short term issue as our global company has decided to close down all UK manufacturing sites and move them to central Europe so they don't have to deal with this shit. We are also a major supplier to the NHS so will be passing on an extra cost to them to have their goods delivered from the EU.
     
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    The ECJ's credibility is in tatters | The Spectator

    Is the European Court of Justice (ECJ) a properly independent court? The damning verdict of two respected EU law academics on an episode involving the ECJ suggests it is not. This debacle also undermines the EU's legal criticisms of Hungary and Poland – and raises worrying questions about how the Northern Ireland Protocol will be enforced.

    The sorry saga dates back to the aftermath of the Brexit vote, when one of the ECJ's 11 advocates general, Dame Eleanor Sharpston, was sacked. Dame Eleanor had every legal right to carry on. After all, ‘she’ didn’t Brexit, the UK did; she also has EU citizenship and is an outstanding EU lawyer. Unsurprisingly she took legal action to prevent her summary dismissal and to stop the appointment of a new advocate general.

    On 4 September 2020, an independent judge recognised Dame Eleanor's dismissal was possibly wrong. A timetable was set out with an exchange of evidence set for 11 September to determine whether that was so. But none of it ever happened: instead, without telling Dame Eleanor (which any fair process would surely require), the ECJ held a different hearing, a day before, on 10 September. At that hearing, the ECJ struck out Dame Eleanor’s case.

    To add insult to injury, the ceremony to appoint Dame Eleanor’s successor took place on the same day. All this without telling Dame Eleanor what was happening. In doing so, the ECJ did not merely breach the Rule of Law, it tore it up and set fire to the remains.

    And yet, in the months since, the ECJ has chosen to double down rather than come clean. In June 2021, the ECJ gave two further judgments to justify its unjustifiable actions. The result was, in the words of those two respected academics – Graham Butler, an associate professor of law at Aarhus university in Denmark, and Dimitry Kochenov, who teaches law at the Central European university in Vienna – that the situation was made 'significantly worse', not least in its ruling that:

    'it is…immaterial whether the (government of the EU) acted within the framework of the Treaties or other legal sources, such as international law'.

    The law inside the EU now appears to be this: the EU government does not need to follow law – any law. And the ECJ will just nod along. Yet that surely is the opposite of the Rule of Law.

    It is now difficult to disagree with the conclusion that the Court of Human Rights would refuse to recognise the ECJ as a proper court. Given the ECJ's role in having the final say on any questions or disputes that arise out of the Northern Ireland Protocol, this is extremely troubling.

    It also presents a big problem for those who want to criticise Poland, or potentially Hungary (nobody seems terribly interested in criticising Germany), over their making – and breaking – of law.

    For the ECJ to function, it must be independent. Lord Frost must face this truth when negotiating over the Protocol in the weeks ahead.


    Brexit was a good thing.

    https://www.eurointelligence.com/column/ultra-vires

    The EU is in a legal mess with Poland too :laugh:
     
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    Good news everybody, it turns out that the unelected bureaucrat David Frost didn't quite "Get Brexit Done" as he's decided that the deal he signed, then lauded over isn't quite what he wanted and now wants to renegotiate!

    It is also being reported that this was always the plan (ie to sign something and then renege on it) to basically win the last election with the "Get Brexit Done" slogan winning the votes of people who'd ordinarily vote elsewhere. At this rate they might even be able to use the "Get Brexit Done" slogan at the next General Election as well

    So brace yourselves folks, it looks like we are heading into year number 6 of Brexit negotiations! And also, I do apologise but this also halts the "it'll be fine in 50 years" mantra from Moggy. That counter will be reset to 0 years 0 months 0 weeks 0 days and will restart once the latest negotiations are complete.

    God Save The Queen!
    Rule Britannia!
     
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    Genius stuff from Truss & Johnson
     
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    Never saw this coming.......
     
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    If @StretfordEnd is turning, there's no hope for Brexit

    Anyway, in other news....

     
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    He isn't.
    Johnson's band of thieves and muppets won't be in charge for ever, sooner or later we'll get some proper government. I hope.
     
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    Things must be bad if the Express is piling on.

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