We have derailed this thread enough but let me pile on one last bit... One of the major reasons why leagues like MLS struggle to massive improve is because of people like @Ajjaro. While I'd love to blame you personally, but the fact of the matter is based on my going to the local pubs during the Premier League games, folks like @Biff Tannen and me are the rare ones. It doesn't help that media just keeps shoving all these teams down our throats while our local clubs barely get any attention. I am not sure how it is for TFC in Toronto, but in Vancouver, the Whitecaps barely get any coverage (doesn't help that we are normally utter shite but still.) When did I say that Davies was a "top player" globally? You know with global capitalism everywhere, it's not really possible to have Liverpools and Man Citys in each country, there is a limited supply of "top players" in the world. The point is that we are consistently supplying players to the top European leagues now and that's a sign of a big improvement in quality. MLS is a league with a wage cap, and is a much fairer league than many others out there, and there is always a sense of pride and fun when your team does well. In a league structure like ours, it is not possible to have a Chelsea, Man City or even Wolves and just spend your way to the top, and there's a lot of satisfaction in having a fairer system like ours. And for a team to grow in stature, it needs support from local people. Luckily though, there are people that do support their local teams, which provides the entire footballing world with a healthy supply of both players and games. "Supporting" good football makes no sense though. I quite enjoy watching good football but I cannot say that I support it.