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Discussion in 'Premier League' started by SpursLegend, Nov 15, 2018.
The funniest thing about VAR though has been the WAY over the top hypocrisy its bringing about. The southern media (and Kane) whining about a pen they didn't get after not a word about the ridiculous Man City disallowed goal. Newcastle player falls, didn't touch Kane, Kane angling INTO Newcastle player to GET a penalty, goes to ground after Lascelles is on the floor, unconvincingly for the ref, never mind VAR - and they're STILL whingeing about it 2 days later !
I wonder what they'd be like when they're cheated of a REAL pen/goal - like Man City were ?
Bloody soft southern media.
There's absolutely no correlation or connection between these two things. The new handball is ridiculous but the Man City goal was absolutely correctly disallowed. It's not even a subjective decision any more. Ridiculous, but unarguable.
There is no link between that and the idea that Man City vs us, Man City vs Bournemouth, Us vs Newcastle feel like we could have had penalties. The worst of those being Man City vs Bournemouth which looked absolutely stonewall.
There also should have been a penalty each in our game, one for a blatant foul in the box on McGinn, and the other due to the ridiculous new hand ball rule. Neither were given by VAR.
The handball think only applies if it ends in a goal.
I’ve seen people say that under the new law, the decision to disallow our goal was correct, if ridiculous. Now I looked up the law, and I’m not sure that’s technically correct. The law states that it will be handball if a player “gains control/possession” of the ball and then either scores or creates a goal. Well, Laporte never actually had control of the ball, so should it have been given? Probably pedantic in the extreme, but a case could be made for that being a wrong application of the law.
Surely it applies if defensive too, as ours was? For the record, the handball penalty would have gone to Spurs.
It doesn't apply to the defending team, only if it directly contributes to the scoring of a goal.
Then I'm doubly pissed, if we'd got that penalty and scored it we'd have been 2-0 up!
Yeah the rules are crap but we are stuck with them until at least the end of this season now.
As a team the handball meant you gained possession because without that contact the corner was floating out towards the edge of the box where a Spurs player would have got the ball.
Sounds like Villa and Bournemouth had players booked for diving when they didn't...
On Wilson’s there was definitely a touch from Soyuncu but looked like he’s brushed him and Wilson’s put himself in the deck to win a penalty. He’s not clipped his legs or anything, but he’s gone down like he did.
The more contentious decision seems to be the red review on Tielemans.
F*ck is the point of VAR if decisions like ours today don't get overturned? Useless f*cking system and a waste of time.
Ah fair enough.
It basically seems the VAR official doesn't want to over rule the on pitch official so you might as well not have them.
Wilson Dived. Not all contact is a foul. Bournmouth are a horrible team. Very cynical and dirty.
They keep saying the clear and obvious error bar is too high.
Erm.. well change it ?!
And are they too worried to crictise each other incase they rely on the on the pitch ref another time ?
VAR clearly failed yesterday. It had it's chance to shine and get the entire footballing fraternity on board by correcting that horrendous decision at Selhurst Park - instead it's further away from being an accepted part of the game than it ever has been.
I've also seen the Tielemans tackle on Wilson and how that wasn't turned into a red card by VAR is another of the many wonders of VAR. It was clearly over the top, nasty and dangerous and it's only pure luck that Wilson wasn't more seriously injured
Getting worried about how this is going. They only seem to want to use it to overturn goals.
I think you hit the nail on the head... if referee are continually having decisions over turned it will them look bad... also think the VAR referees are going to start thinking its all about them, egos will take over.