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Watford v Man City - FA Cup final (Sat 18th May 2019)

Discussion in 'Domestic Cups' started by wfctillidie, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. mattledud

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    “streaming” :laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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  2. wfctillidie

    wfctillidie On loan from the championship..

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    Will never watch them back but was at fault for 2nd goal along with Femenia. Stays on his line and Jesus’s cut back is gathered comfortably.

    City did not have to work for their first half goals, both were league 1 standard defending. That’s the big disappointment for me really.
     
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  3. Taffy

    Taffy C'mon you reds.

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    Ruthless from City, even at 5-0 they wanted another when most teams would just run the clock down as it is job done. Incredible season by City, think i heard Shearer say they have scored 169 goals this season...............169 FFS......mad.
     
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    Yes the manager, players etc deserve credit, it's a bit strange to assign them any for financial reasons though! In the last decade alone City have spent more on transfers than any other club has in their entire history. That's before you factor money spent on wages, facilities etc. Even if they had less of an advantage than Chelsea did (arguable) then so what? It's still a huge advantage.

     
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  5. UnitedRoad

    UnitedRoad 32 Years : F*** All

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    What made you think that :D
     
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    I wasn't. I just don't recall so much complaining when Chelsea were doing it on a grander scale of relativity last decade. You don't need to tell an Arsenal fan about what clubs are spending :laugh:

    That City squad in terms of value is not even worth twice as much as the likes of United, Chelsea or Liverpool. Probably Arsenal as well. It's an exhausted excuse. Chelsea's squad around the mid 00s was 4 times more expensive than Arsenal so you can imagine what the gap was to the likes of the mid table squads!

    Out of the disclosed fees, Bournemouth, Fulham, West Ham and Everton make the top 10 signings of last summer in terms of fees.
     
  7. SJ Mackem

    SJ Mackem Red and White Army!

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    'I was in a shopping mall and no one celebrated City's goals'

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  8. UnitedRoad

    UnitedRoad 32 Years : F*** All

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    Who isn’t giving him credit?

    He’s a top manager, absolutely no doubt about it. But when you inherit a side that was in a champions league semi final and league winners not long before he came with a brilliant spine in place ( Kompany, Silva, Aguero, Fernandinho, De Bruyne + older but serviceable Toure and Zabaleta), proceed to then spend an eye watering amount of money then I’m not having this as some footballing miracle. He didn’t build the side from scratch.

    That being said, he has elevated the level of the above and created a world class team. I find comparisons to previous teams a bit tenuous but they would be up there.

    And already reports they are going to be “ruthless” and throw another 200m at it this summer :rolleyes

    I wonder when this famous youth academy they have built up ( and spent whatever on) will start to actually create some players. But then what’s the point when you don’t have to.
     
  9. StillHurts31

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    You are right, flooding was probably the correct term to use. X
     
  10. mattledud

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    :laugh: Ridiculous. I think we’ve hit rock bottom with that one.
     
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    You’re already after one with a 100mill+ price tag on him!
     
  12. BoscombeLass

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    Not as good as Man United's 1999 treble, but at the end of the day when you take into consideration the UCL is harder to win these days, and that Man City won the league with 98 points and needed to, their season was more impressive.

    Man United in 1999 only got something like 78 points; the third worse for a three points for a win title winning season since the first one in 1982-83, and had to rely on extra time and a clip we never see the end of featuring Gigg's ugly chest to get to the cup final.

    Yes, City should have not got to the final, but no VAR in 1999 did help United out a lot. This City team are more clinical than Man United 1998-99, it was just David crosses it in, Dwight gets a nut on it 98 percent of the time, with City the goals came from almost anywhere.

    The CL in 1999 was easier to win, as it was 24 teams and not 32, meaning it was harder to meet a team from your own country, and they know you best in regards to how you play, and how your best penalty taker takes penalties, like City learnt the season just gone and last season (knocked out the CL by EPL teams in two seasons in a row).

    If the UCL kept the same format today from that one used in 1999, City would be in the final with no Spurs to get in their way.

    If Spurs (or if Liverpool, maybe) win the UCL, you cannot say they are the best team in Europe right now, Man City are.
     
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    UnitedRoad 32 Years : F*** All

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    a) we are?
    b) if you mean Sancho, he was at city for 2 years after they surprise surprise payed the thick end of 500k for a 14 year old :D

    Good try though.
     
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    Man City to be Team of the Year on the IFFHS World Team Ranking by the end of 2019?.

    Would not surprise me in the slightest to be honest. By Christmas they will most probably be top of the PL, and through to the next stages of the CL at a landslide.

    The ranking only takes into account Domestic Cup performance from the 5th round onwards, so to make it a level playing field with countries who's domestic cup contest only has 16 teams in it.

    Anyways, onto looking ahead to next season, all we have to do is stay up, Man City have a big job on their hands to prove all of this was not a one off.
     
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    Oh plenty were complaining about Chelsea! :laugh: City's scale has been pretty damn grand tbf. There are a few differences like City's financial doping & them being owned by even more questionable owners so I'd point to those as reasons they're less palatable. The more success City has, the more the media & fans look at these things. When they finished 3rd & 4th, the focus was off them.
    Yeah could make a case for us being 2nd best with 97 points, back to back CL finals and deservedly knocking out Barca who would be a contender, but City are the best IMO.
     
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    PorkchopExpress The Blackfish

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    Give us a lot of these examples of no VAR helping United out in 98/99 please.

    Also, why do you think playing Spurs in the CL is harder than playing Barcelona, Bayern Munich (twice), Juventus and Inter?
     
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    Our FA Cup run that year too.....

    LFC , Chelsea and Arsenal...:laugh:
     
  18. mattledud

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    Stockport
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  19. BoscombeLass

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    What I am saying is, is that if the CL was an actual league, and not a cup formatted contest in which if you lose once, its curtains and blinds for you, Man City would be top of it.

    Cup formatting does not let the best team win.

    As for the VAR thing, that was only a few league matches. Barca at the time were poor in Europe, always going out early, it was not until Pep came along, he turned it round.
     
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    PorkchopExpress The Blackfish

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    And Boro and Newcastle.
     

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