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Who’s next for the sack?

Discussion in 'Premier League' started by JimJams, Nov 23, 2019.

  1. Deano

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    We should have had 2 more point so could be 13
     
  2. Coys4

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    Has to be Emery. To spend as much as he has in the short time he has been there and take the club backwards is kind of impressive.

    Marco Silva is in the same position but I would expect Arsenal to react quicker after buying Auba, Laca, Pepe, Tierney and bringing in Ceballos on loan only to regress as a club.
     
  3. MrLeeLemon

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    A big reason Silva and maybe Emery will stay in their posts a bit longer could be the lack of suitable replacements.

    For all the mentions of Allegri - there has been zero concrete talk on him and Arsenal. Enrique was mentioned but now he's working again. Arteta wouldn't walk out on Guardiola midseason and then Pochettino is a no goer - you'd think.

    Same for Everton, though they could take a risk on some unknown quantities and see how it goes. All that money spent and the two leading choices are Moyes and Hughes? In 2019???

    I've mentioned Benitez for Arsenal before. And I'll mention it again - it makes perfect sense for their current situation.
     
  4. WBArgo

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    Surprised no one has gone in for Eddie Howe yet considering he is highly thought of.
     
  5. MrLeeLemon

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    He's a weird one. Maybe people fear taking him from a club he's done wonderful things with over such a long period because outside of that club he is an unknown quantity.
     
  6. Richard

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    The mentality of Arsenal. Like when it was only the likes of Leicester to overhaul for the league so you started celebrating in November. Still love the pic posted after our game at your place too.

    Watford and Saints are shit granted. But Sheff Utd are one of the best teams we've played this season and Wolves are a very good team.
     
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  7. JimJams

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    Sheff Utd are awesome. Wonder if they can do a Wolves.
     
  8. MrLeeLemon

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    The state of some of the usual "top 7" teams this season... they can go one or two better.
     
  9. LightningFeet

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    A mad spell of uncharacteristically poor defending from us today cost us the win but we've been unlucky in a few games this season, where we have dropped points when we really should have seen the game out to win. The football we play at times is a joy to watch but we really should be putting mid-table teams like Manchester United to bed.
     
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  10. Deano

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    Hopefully we can do a Wolves :laugh: front 3 of Jota Raul Adama is looking scary at the moment and we are sitting 5th.

    Thursday is massive for us as if we win we will put ourselves too of the Europa group and in pole position to avoid any of the teams that drop of the CL
     
  11. Pagnell

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    Ouch.
     
  12. Super_horns

    Super_horns WATFORD Till I Die
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    True but the 2nd half v Arsenal was the best of the season which probably says a lot about Arsenal.

    No one else has come close to losing a lead against us ..
     
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    StretfordEnd Fools can be kings
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    I've supported him unequivocally so far, but today's sh*thouse Mourinho-like substitution has severely dented my faith that he knows what he's doing.
     
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    Nothing to with mentality. We have better players (IMO) and thus the manager should be getting better results. You’re telling me if you drop points at home to Wolves or away to Sheffield United, you wouldn’t be demanding more? If we want to be finishing top 4, they are exactly the type of games we should not be dropping points in.

    I’d argue it’s a shit mentality to be pointing to how good your opponents are when you lose to them :shrug
     
  15. Gloria Lestafan

    Gloria Lestafan I have a mandolin...

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    Sheffield Utd are so great to watch. Great to see them doing so well.
     
  16. JimJams

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    @A Gooner
    Why do you think your players are good enough though? I don’t get this from Arsenal fans, because this particular set of players hasn’t proven anything. If this was a side who’d achieved something and then gone sour then yeah great, but it ain’t.
    Nobody in that defence or midfield has played at a level that Arsenal fans seem to think they’re at, excluding Ozil and his way of playing (ie doing fk all defensively) isn’t good enough in today’s game.
     
  17. A Gooner

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    We got 71 points last season. There’s a really good reason for starters :shrug
     
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    Well no you got 70 but anyway, that got you 5th, which you’re currently a single point off of. So you are doing pretty much as well as last season.
     
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    A simple error, my mistake....but

    We definitely aren’t doing as well as last season. We’re on course to finish with 53 points. The defence is somehow even more porous, the attack cannot get going at all. We continue to get outplayed every game.

    It all points to the manager. The pressure, or rather expectation, that has come his way this calendar year has seen the side get worse and worse. Once it looked like we should be finishing top 4 last season, the performances dwindled. When the pressure was on towards the end, we dropped point after point. Then the pressure was on to win the Europa League final. We lost 4-1.

    Then a summer of big spending ramped it up again with an expectation of a top 4 finish. No free hit this time, you must make it. And the team has completely folded again. Just go and look at some of our stats this season. It’s not down to personnel, it’s the manager.

    Emery thrives in a no pressure scenario that comes with a mid table side. Once you put targets on him, he crumbles. It needed Monaco to be completely decimated for him to win the league in France.

    This squad needs a bold brave manager to get the ball down and control games. Not some plucky keep it level and nick a win type. That’s what Emery is.
     

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