2023-24 Uefa Champions League

Discussion in 'Uefa Champions League & Europa League' started by Taffy, Jul 4, 2023.

  1. Rambo1

    Rambo1 Registered User

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    There's plenty tonight ;)

    Listen, I get that you don't want penalties given for daft stuff. I don't either but that's on the players.

    You didn't answer my question though.

    In the video I posted above, why is Raya staring at the ref for 5 seconds with the ball at his feet as if he's about to take the goal kick waiting for him to blow his whistle and restart the game?

    Then as soon as he does and waves for play to restart, passes to Gabriel at that point?

    Why not give him it earlier, before the ref blows, if Gabriel is going to be the one restarting play?
     
  2. A Gooner

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    Because it’s a routine. It’s what they do. I don’t know what more you want me to say! :laugh:

    Sometimes Raya will pick the ball up and throw it to Gabriel. Sometimes he’ll kick it over to him. It’s what they do. I’m guessing it‘s like a trigger to everyone else to start getting into the correct build up shapes. I dunno, I’m not a coach.

    All I can tell you is they do it a lot :shrug
     
  3. MrLeeLemon

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    Not Arsenal getting to just blatantly handle the ball in the box is it?
     
  4. Rambo1

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    Fair enough.

    Seems like a pretty unnecessary risk for no reward given it's a penalty by the laws of the game :shrug

    Anyway, not much more either of us can say on it :laugh:

    It's alright, it's a routine ;)
     
  5. Jason

    Jason Spurs optimist

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    This happens fairly frequently. Seems the latest fad that CB's take the goal kick and it quite often starts with the ball with the goalkeeper.

    Goalkeeper has the ball, gives it to the CB to take the goal kick and 90% of the time they kick off by passing it back to the goalkeeper.

    It's obviously been highlighted tonight because it's a different competition with different officials but I'm sure we'll see it happen over the weekend in the Premier League. Probably in multiple games, I'm not sure it's specific to Arsenal. I don't specifically listen for the whistle every time it happens but it's certainly not surprising to me that Arsenal have done that tonight.
     
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  6. A Gooner

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    I’m sure it’s to do with build up structures and having more angles and options to play with by playing it to the goalkeeper from a goal kick.
     
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    That's arsenal out, not sure about Man city thats a coin toss IMO.
     
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    Madrid just fizzled out in the 2nd half. City should have won that one.
     
  9. Super_horns

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    So one dodgy non decision each then..

    All even I guess?
     
  10. zippy

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    The ref blew the whistle, so the ball was in play, he picks it up, so it's a penalty. Whether or not they do that every game is irrelevant.
     
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    What dodgy decisions went for Bayern?
     
  12. Dirk

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    Funny what the ref said when asked why he didn't give this penalty " It was a kids mistake" :laugh:

    But that's the deciding factor here, Jason. As soon as the Ref blows the whistle the match is on again and no player, except the goalie, in his penalty area, can take the ball into his hands.
    The goalie should've released the ball before the ref blew the whistle and nobody would say anything when the player take it in his hand for the goal kick but not after the whistle blew.

    And saying that it's "routine" at Arsenal that he always takes the goal kicks doesn't matter here.


    edit:
    Today Dortmund away at Atletico. I don't expect anything from Borussia.
    They're a riddle this season.
    Maybe they surprise me, maybe not. But as it looks right now they may be losing the CL spot in the Bundesliga, so this could be the last 2 matches in the CL not only for this season.
     
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    None in my view but obviously a few Arsenal fans and Rio Ferdinand think they got west with one .
     
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    Never a penalty for Arsenal, also Danny Murphy saying fair play to the ref on the Bayern penalty. **** me I thought he said he'd have up the drugs
     
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  15. Jonny Ninja

    Jonny Ninja Most of my heroes don’t appear on no stamp

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    If saka hadn’t dangled his leg out he may have been fouled anyway.
     
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    absolutely, on their day Real Madrid can rip any side a new one.

    I thought when Palace took an early lead that that is citeh's weakness, and indeed any big gun is far from invulnerable, so if you can score the goals the venue may not matter so much

    and great they ditched away goals, would hate for a great tie to be decided on a frivilous "well citeh scored 3 at Bernie Inn and Madrid only scored 2 at the oil drum stadium so give it to citeh" - nowt wrong with deciding it on penalties if it is so close the aggregate scores are level
     
  17. TheDarkKnight

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    yet to see a conclusive replay, one dubious one where it is slowed down and almost looks like it is doctored

    Neuer's plea of innocence just makes him look guilty though!


    seem to recall on a forum (LFC?) a debate that whether the player was heading towards or away from goal should somehow matter, don't see how, foul is a foul and that is the deciding factor inside or outside the area
     
  18. njmcfc1894

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    Most players just take it round and score rather than get a penalty but hey ho
     
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    I think 60 /40 to bayern abd 90/ 10 for city. Bayern still don't look great and arsenal have been pretty good away from home this season. And city hammered real at the etihad last year with benzema and a younger kroos so I can only see a total domination again
     
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    Bayern in Munich isn't an impossible task at all. Remember Liverpool drawing the first leg at Anfield in 2018-19 and then going and winning 3-1 in Munich. And that Bayern side was far superior to this current one.

    If away goals was still a factor then I'd say Arsenal have a tough job, but they can go and draw 0-0 or 1-1 and take it the distance. I think Arsenal will progress.
     

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