Managerial Comings and Goings 24/25 Season

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  1. Bcfc kid

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    Yeah that's fair, but if we're judging managers on the here and now Robbins is close to the sack. The reason Williams is non league is most likely no other club at this level would take that risk. I would go abroad, because there's very few successful British managers who would tolerate the interference. Probably why Rowett and Eustace haven't said anything about the job so far.

    I've looked at German managers who have come over here, and it's been a pretty good strike rate at Championship level.
     
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    I wouldn’t be against that either. I’d rather gamble than go for Rowett or Eustace, because they won’t get us where we want to be.
     
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    Also @Bcfc kid Notts are in League Two now, and their style from the Conference has unsurprisingly been a success in the league above.

    As I said I think with the upgrade in players and with some backing (which he’ll probably receive) he could get it right here.
     
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    Rowetts only really failed at Stoke tbh, and look at Stoke now under Alex Neill. They ain't that far off us in terms of being a basket case right now. The top half finishes he achieved with Millwall was done mostly with limited finances.

    Who's to say with money to spend he couldn't get top 6? Personally think the new man will have to be someone that's done something at this level for the fans to accept it. Highly unlikely we will pay the 2m compensation for a good manager in a job either, as is the case with Robbins. Time will tell, but if it's a good appointment then we have the makings of a good team. The injury list is very hard to ignore, but come January we should have most of our squad back. Equally, if it's a lower league manager they are down there for a reason unless their young.
     
  5. Bcfc kid

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    Haven't been following his career all that closely, looked up his win rate and it is impressive, but it's going to be a very tough sell to our fans.
     
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    The one thing I will say about Pearson is, he's clearly put his life and soul into the club and totally bought into the culture around it. Whoever comes in might not have the same level of passion when it starts to go south. In many ways I think he's been very lenient to now if what they say about Tinnion is true. Maybe Williams will be one of only a few managers who wants it.
     
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    The club have clearly stated via Tinnion that the style of football has to be on the front foot and attacking so for them the style does matter. It also has to get us near to promotion. There aren't many managers that fit that description that have been mentioned.

    Such a bizarre sacking. Pearson was at least building a squad and the stability was good for us in my opinion. To tear it all up without a clear plan is absolutely stupid.
     
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    This is the thing with manager sackings for me.

    Don't do it unless you already have a plan in place for the direction you want to go in and you've earmarked the ideal successor.

    At least when we sacked McAvoy (a lazy in-house promotion) we had Lowe in the building within 24 hours.
     
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    I've said before that style of play can change between jobs as a manager. It's very poor timing, but it's been done to death. Sam Allardyce played some of the best football I've seen when I watched Bolton, it's not set in stone that the manager they get in won't be able to adapt.

    The real stumbling block might be the repetitive selling of your best players whenever real progress in the league is being made though...The style of play won't matter one bit if we're winning games of football, that was a dig at Pearson as much as anything else.
     
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    The reality is it's gonna be a young'un. Nothing I've seen tells me that there will be many managers over the age of 45 prepared to work under the conditions we've set out.

    Scott Parker could be an interesting shout in that case, but he's always had boat loads of money to spend. Eventually when/ big IF, we are knocking on the door of top 6 we'll have to hold on to the players that got us there. Style of play is transient depending on who you're playing, and the players available. Only time I've ever seen style of play being a real problem is when it goes tits up and teams are losing every week. Wouldn't make sense to pay compo for a quality younger manager, as that will be a chunk off the transfer kitty/ wage bill.

    Big name managers means big manager wages, which I don't think a lot of people realize. Potentially the ideal manager for us at this level will be asking for 3m in wages himself.
     
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    I think Parker's utter dross, barely scraped promotion with the best squad in the league both times.

    Lampard's 1/4 this morning.

    My money's on Manning.
     
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    Lampard. Yikes :cry:
     
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    If they appoint Lampard I'd be tempted to put money on them going down. Would be as bad as the Eustace for Rooney swap
     
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    It won't be Lampard or Eustace, I think the bookies haven't got a clue. I'd like Williams, dont think it can be overstated how good of a job he's done with actually not *that* much money, but I'm not sure how well he and the club get on after he left his post as U23 manager slightly acrimoniously.

    Rowett is a sideways step and I don't really see the point in sacking Pearson for the sake of bringing in a manager who has mastered the art of finishing 7th-10th.

    Realistically we need to look abroad because there's nobody available who suits what the club wants but because we tried that in 1998 and it didn't work Lansdown will never do it again
     
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    Would be a better appointment than Eustace.
     
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    Bigger name to attract players maybe .
     
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    Lampard would be very near the bottom of any list of people I’d ever want to manage us I’m afraid.
     
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    I do actually quite like Eustace. Did a solid job at Birmingham where plenty of managers had failed before him. Used to have a reputation for playing the sort of football the board seem to want us to play too, but his time at Kiddie was a long time ago now and I suspect the board will take some convincing that he'll have us playing like that.

    Can't help but feel with Lampard there's a strong chance it just immediately doesn't work and he's out the door in minutes, so I'd be worried if he came in. Granted he did well with Derby but in hindsight they had a great squad, spells with Chelsea and Everton after that weren't anywhere near as promising.
     
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    I have been wanting Manning to come in since we hired Beale. I think he will be a good manager at this level and I was gutted we went for Ainsworth and not him.

    Happy (on paper, anyway) with our current boss but I think Manning would be a good choice.
     
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    Our local rag confirming once again the bookies haven't a clue and that Lampard isn't being looked at.
     
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