https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2025/june/10/town-sign-joe-snowdon/ Joe Snowdon, a midfielder released by Leeds joins on a 1 year deal.
Woke? Scratch the surface and the truth quickly comes out. You have no idea how many have applied, how many have been interviewed. More guesswork from NE Derbyshire.
If it was a liability shift, whoever is in charge of recruitment would have been fired before the manager. He's just a coach after all. I think the problem with your set up is the lack of accountability when things go wrong, recruitment is 9/10 of the law in football.
The recruitment guy was poached by Swansea in January, be a bit unfair to blame the new bloke when he's been in for two months. If there was a perfect model we'd all be doing it no doubt
Impressively quick backpedaling from an old man. I'd say 50:50 and that's been generous. As bendy suggests recruitment is key and from my experience with my club is the recruitment when led by the manager or he has the final say was poor in comparison to when the work and decisions are made by the head of recruitment and is headset wearing analysts. Yes our owners are light years ahead both in terms of professionalism, decision making and investment compared the previous incumbents but that further strengthens my belief in their distinct approach. I'm still not sure how much say and how involved the head coach is , I assumed he was some part of the process seeing as he will ultimately coach any new recruits. I would have thought he is giving feedback to the recruitment team during regular meetings. I'm not there so don't know but do know our recruitment has been impressive ever since the weird bros with the dough arrived.
So what you're saying is, someone has moved on and the new guy needs time to implement his own ideas and be judged on them? Sounds a bit like a manager to me
So all that, just to end up agreeing with my view that the head coach should be at the very least involved in the final decision making process on signing a player or not? Nice.
nah, they use a proprietary model owned by the owners themselves - that’s the one constant it’s clearly very fallible and one of the problems with models is you can always just say it needs improving whenever something goes wrong ‘signed a bad player, ah never mind we’ll tweak the model’. the incredulity that this is some sort of mental process as opposed to a 55 year old just thumbing through his notebook twice a year is what I’m struggling with here lads. Every version of everything is only as good as the people involved in it, I think the owners are trying to minimise one variable (I.e. person) skewing the results entirely. It’s how most scalable businesses are ran
No I'm afraid not. Close but no cigar. I'm highlighting the fact that people assume from the outside that the head coach has no say on any signings made using this model. Regardless of the unknown intricacies of the process the net result is at my club it's worked a lot better than when the manager plays a significant part in the process or even the final say/deciding vote. That's the simple takeaway chap.
That's obviously an over simplification. Any other club has access to the same resources you do, more or less, but if the guy who picks the team on a Saturday had no say in what that squad looks like, how can be expected to do that properly? If he picks the tactics, how can he be expected to do that if he hasn't been able to pick players that suit that style? If you're happy with the model then fair enough, you obviously have way more skin in the game than I do, but it doesn't make sense to me from the outside if you're just going to sack the manager anyway if things aren't working. 'just tweak the model bro' screams an entire lack of accountability for whoever actually made it go wrong to me
Oh yeah, mad assumption isn’t it considering you literally do not have a head coach in place, yet you’ve signed a player today…
I think most fans saw enough of last season's team to think the coach should have done better. Not all Maynards fault, the club said yesterday they need to be able to combat physical teams better and we've signed a 6'3" midfielder as part of the solution.
And I suppose if that doesn't work, just sack the manager again? It's handy having a fall guy, even one who hasn't put anything together. I'm not trying to be a knob, I'm just trying to illustrate the problem with the model. You find yourself wrong end of the table next season, what happens? Sack the gaffer? You know why? Because this person is ultimately responsible for the failure or success of a football team. (inb4 you finish 20 places above us next year.)
Our dof and our fans board member offered each other a chat in the car park last season! It seems Lindsey has the power to recruit more experienced professionals than Elliot, and him previously, was allowed. That came from a reliable local journalist on 'Musk is an idiot' or X or whatever it's called. Casey
It's a model, not a 100% guarantee of success. It's done us pretty well so far, always been in the top end of the division, crowds well up and we've been paying fees for decent players. I actually think the biggest weakness has been the head coach hires. Williams was great but Burchnall and Maynard were only moderate. No matter how good the facilities, squad and medical back up, the coach has to get more than the sum of their parts out of them because we're never going to do a Wrexham or Birmingham and blow the division away on spending power. Edit. In fairness to the model and Maynard, he got sacked for finishing sixth, it's not exactly massive failure we're talking about.
