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The Chamions v Dundee Utd

Discussion in 'Scottish Football' started by Ironz4life, Apr 2, 2011.

  1. 51andCounting

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    1st penalty - stonewaller and deserved a sending off
    2nd penalty - probably outside the box but deserved a sending off. (Celtic fans crying in this thread might want to look back to Hamilton last week when Imrie was fouled outside the box)
    3rd penalty was a penalty. Now if Diouf is fouled then it is a sending off as he is 6 yards from goal and all he needs to do is head it in. Correct call by Collum.
     
  2. MicMac1873

    MicMac1873 New Member

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    To be fair to Collum, Diouf is putting the ball in an empty net before he gets shoved in the back.

    The first two were red cards definitely, first was a stonewall penalty. As for the second, at first view it looked inside the box so you can understand why its given, but surely the linesman had a decent view? I haven't seen it that many times that I could tell if someone was blocking his vision.
     
  3. pvm66

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    If thats the case mate then we are looking at virtually every foul in the box being a red card.
     
  4. delr

    delr Former Bluenose

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    So just cause its coming to the end of the season, refs shouldnt give penalties even if they are? ie 2 clear pens last night and another one ( only from a replay it shows it was outside the box )

    3rd was a pen, but no need for a red card.
     
  5. Hashtag55

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    The same happend at Hampden on Sunday.. Nothing is being mentioned!
     
  6. F.T.D83

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    first pen= stonewaller
    2nd pen = alot of pish
    3rd pen = even bigger lot of pish!
    Willie Collum should be fined for that!
    H*n with a whistle!
     
  7. pvm66

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    Careful mate, they'll have you on the paranoia bus anytime soon.
     
  8. F.T.D83

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    lol well they would be aswell just handing the title to them now if it is going that way like! absoulute joke! no wonder our game gets laughed at as much!
     
  9. MicMac1873

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    By the rules the ref can give a free kick until the last point of contact, inside the box = penalty. That being said, I dont think it was a penalty but its clearly understandable why it was given.

    The third one was a penalty, perhaps a red card was harsh but it was a push in the back.

    You lot were never in that game last night even with 11 v 11, unfortunately the ref's performances is going to over shadow United's pishness.
     
  10. F.T.D83

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    agreed united were pish! just as you lot were at ibrox a few weeks ago! never a pen for the third! yes seen them giving in other games to but imo never a pen! unless i havent noticed football is a non contact sport! as for gomis being red carded! dinna get me started!
     
  11. delr

    delr Former Bluenose

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    Your player clearly pushed Diouf when he was goney attempt to header it when the cross was coming in, so how was that not a penalty? Think your kidding yourself on there.
     
  12. F.T.D83

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    well well well
     
  13. skorn

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    And your point is ...???

    Everybody on here agrees -- it wasn't a penalty.
    (When you look at the video it is not as clear, but this is why we need an extra official in a booth with replay facilities, as other sports do).
     
  14. Caesar

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    Rangers won that game out of the park. It was over as soon as Kovacevic brought Naismith down.

    The second as we can all see now is not a penalty but the tackle continued on into the box and Jelavic eventually fell inside it so in real time that can be hard to call. Regardless of that, Utd were going down to ten men in any case so the end result was never in doubt.
     
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    I love how people use frozen images to try and prove a point.
     
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    I think the poster is right!
    But then again, everybody else has already said this -- he's trying to "prove a point" about the second "penalty" that everyone has already conceded !!

    Sometimes such stills CAN show something.
     
  17. F.T.D83

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    also to prove a point that dillon has touched the ball so no red card! funny how these decisions always benefit rangers!
     
  18. skorn

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    Fair point re Dillon and the ball, but ... "getting the ball first" is no defence if your player continues in his "tackle" and unfairly takes down an opponent who is running onto the ball.


    As for decsions benefitting Rangers ...

    Edu was caught late several times, including a blatant foul by Severin rright into the back of the RFC player.
    With 15 minutes to go he was brought down by Kenneth, with no card shown.

    Naismith was booked for a handball when the ball bounced up and hit the top of his arm.

    Hutton was ridiculously booked for not being able to get out of way of Swanson deliberately running right into him

    A minute later, Robertson went in studs-up on Hutton -- no card!!

    Lafferty had a foul given against him for quite cleanly and cleanly winning the ball

    Swanson incredibly was not booked for taking Whittaker’s legs away well after the ball had gone


    But aye, Rangers get all the decisions ...
     
  19. MicMac1873

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    my point about still images stands here, the ball continues towards goal, Jelavic is in control of it, Dillon fouls him.
     
  20. Lisbon 67

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    The people who are now admitting that getting the ball first is no defence are the same people that used EXACTLY that as the defence for why Bougherra shouldn't have been sent off at Celtic Park and why it wasn't a penalty in the 'Dougie Dougie' game.
     

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