Watford v Chelsea

Why do I get the feeling there will be a tonne of pressure and expectations on Success' shoulders the second he is back from injury? We need a new forward

 

I thought it was Peneranda who cost £12m? Success has never been prolific so how could he have cost so much?

Anyway, I didn't see anything from Chelsea to suggest they are top 4 material. Think there will be a lot of disappointed Chelsea fans come the end of the season. Matic, Ivanovic and Oscar are no good.

 

Success was £12.5m. Agree about those Chelsea players but think they'll be top 4 myself.

I'd like to think we'll have too much for a lot of teams down near the bottom but Ighalo and Deeney need to massively step it up.


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Just saw the Costa dive; can't believe that he didn't get a second yellow for that.

 

Blatant handball from Cathcart but 100% we should have been playing against 10 men, dispicable again from Costa.

Gomes at fault for both goals for me, so disappointing to see. I mentioned in a post on our section a few months ago that Gomes finished the season below par and may need replacing before the season is out. I love him but I haven't seen much to prove me wrong. His poor punching lost us 2 points at Southampton as well.


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With regards to Hazards powerful shot, I dont expect Gomes to hold on to that as the ball was bobbling, but he should have parried it away further and not parry it in to the danger area. Anyway, the sole reason Hazard was able to have a shot in the first place was due to Amrabat's rubbish throw in.

The second goal though I don't see how Gomes can be blamed for that?? Delightful through ball from Fabregas, with a cool, calm and well placed/taken finish by Costa. What did Gomes do wrong?

Gomes main weakness is definatly his punching though. Punches it when he shouldn't and doesn't punch it when he should.

With regards to Redmond's goal, he had too many bodies in his way (from the corner)

 

It wasn't a great game by any stretch of the imagination. The first 60 minutes or so were dire, with lots of bad passes and useless build up play. Watford's goal brightened things up, and made things happen.

Conte's subs are being credited with a lot, and rightly so. On the other hand, they were essentially the same subs as the West Ham game, with the exception being Fabregas, who clearly should be starting anyway. Our new striker looks great, though.

Costa wasn't sent off - get over it. I like the new rule about swearing at the ref, on the other hand, if Costa had been sent off for diving (and it was a bad dive) then in effect he'd of been sent off for diving and saying something to the ref. Are we really wanting to see players sent off - and matches ruined - because of something said to a ref? Either way, the ref didn't think the dive warranted a yellow - so it's all academic now.

Many Chelsea fans were happy with yesterday, but I was a little worried. The subs were the same, so basically as it stands, opposing teams will know that we're going to swap out a winger, bring on a second striker, and change the DM. It looked a bit predictable. Fabregas must start the next game, I'd take Matic out. As it is, he's being given license to go forward, with Kante staying back. But in that case, Fabregas is a better option. We also - and I've been saying it on this boards for several seasons - need to start with two strikers.

Having watched the Man U game on Friday, it was frightening - though predictable - how good they were. So we really need to step up. We'd of lost, or drawn, this game last season, for sure. Fortunately, the opening fixture list has been kind to us.

 

Agreed on the second goal. Gomes did nothing wrong, it was a one on one situation, and he did all he could. Sometimes it's not possible to save a shot. Same applies to Watford's goal - Courtois couldn't save that. Yes he was beaten at the near post, but the shot was hit with power into the roof of the net - you can't really expect those to be saved.

 

I expect Gomes to deal with Hazard's shot a lot better, as did most commentators. Don't buy Amrabats throw in as a reason because frankly that kind of stuff happens 5 or 6 times a game and with us being so deep Chelsea were always going to get shots away.

As for the second, watch it again. His shape is fine but for some reason moves his left leg out the way of the shot resulting in the goal. He's trying to get his arm down to compensate but even then is nowhere near it.

As for Redmonds goal, where you at the game? Gomes got injured in the first half which severely impacted his punching and kicking, should have gone off because for the goal the punch was poor and any fully fit keeper putting everything behind it would have cleared the 18 yard box.

So yes unfortunately I do think he's cost us dearly early on.


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I think you're describing how the second goal happened - but it doesn't follow Gomez could/should have "done better". Of course if his leg had remained there he'd of made contact with the ball, but that's a bit like saying "if Courtois had raised his arms up he'd of beaten away Watford's goal". Don't forget, these players are making split second decisions. It's easy to watch slow-mo and say "if only", but in real-time Gomes did nothing wrong, he just wasn't able to save it on this occasion.

 

I believe Gomes made the right choice to go for the corner ball, but one of our defenders simply got in his way meaning he only got half contact on the ball. If our defender had tired to head it out instead of just standing still then we don't concede that goal.

Costa waited for the right moment to slot it underneath Gomes, have to give Costa credit for that, he kept his head up and showed good composure. Where was our defence when the through ball was made though?

End of the day we attack as a team and defend as a team.

 

What has happened to Pato by the way?

 

The rules have been outlined. Regardless of what people want to see or not. Any dissent shown = a yellow. He should have gone.

The fact that Costa has never been sent off the Premier League says it all really. Big club, big player.

 

I get what Osgood was getting at but I have to agree with this. Costa is a big player and a good one at that but also comes with baggage and you can't have it both ways. He should have gone and we possibly get a point or 3.

Re Gomes, possibly being harsh but looking at the goal it does seem a bit of an unnatural motion/reaction to move your leg like that, most keepers (be it League 2 or Prem) would keep there shape there I think. Costa came onto the through ball like a world class striker no doubt and I'm not taking away from his ability.


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It was one half of our sending off yesterday. Consistency is all we can ask.

 

Costa has been needing to sort his shit out for a few years now. Unfortunately that won't happen as he's a monumental bellend