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36 team Champions league ?

Discussion in 'Uefa Champions League & Europa League' started by Super_horns, Mar 9, 2021.

  1. Super_horns

    Super_horns WATFORD Till I Die
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    All about the money I guess naturally.

    But not sure how the players and managers are going to take this at a time when they are often commenting on too having too many games meaning burn out and injuries.


    New CL format could be agreed this month
     
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  2. StewieJT

    StewieJT Registered User

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    Only about the money. Although if the proposal is to give the extra places to the champions of middle ranking leagues, then I'm not sure how excited the fans will be! But four more games to earn revenue from...
     
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  3. Walsh No5

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    The death of football as we know it. Teams like Leicester getting penalised for being well run. Yet again it’s all about money and I would think it funny if fans cancelled their football satellite subscriptions as a result.
     
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    The fact that there are ‘wildcard’ entries is a joke. Basically if a massive club have a fall from grace and have a poor season they have another safety net ?
     
  5. Super_horns

    Super_horns WATFORD Till I Die
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  6. Walsh No5

    Walsh No5 Registered User

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    Sorry but the day we won the PL is the day football was broken. As far as co efficients are concerned I would imagine that Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest are livid that they’re being frozen out at the expense of
    Spurs!
     
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    Almost like how FFP is getting scrapped now that Arsenal , United and Milan aren't the forces they were and Barca and Madrid are skint, who saw that coming? :hmmm
     
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  8. Empress Touch

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    Yes - it's not exactly great, what's going on at UEFA.

    But at least they've at least noticed that something needs to change,
    if indeed, opportunities are being wasted to improve European football as a whole.


    Personally, I'd love to see the "Champions" League return to exactly that;
    NOT because the tournament has become an 'elite nations' competition,
    but that participating in it has become more important than winning the thing itself.

    We live in a world
    where 'talent' has disappeared from vocabulary
    and been replaced with something very different.

    Champions' League football is rapidly becoming a product of insignificance to even general sports fans,
    as well as the rest of the global public who don't like sport at all.

    If this doesn't alarm the sponsors, well...


    All this said,
    there are solutions that could be implemented in everyone's interest -
    including the best players whose workload has never been more demanding - on AND off the pitch.

    For starters,
    making the Champions' League better - in harmony with the UEFA Europa League
    AND the future Europa Conference,
    instead of the competitions competing against one-another.

    Limiting the Champions' League to ONLY state nation champions
    and at that, pools of five teams playing only two home and two away fixtures
    will reduce fixtures, thus increasing significance of Autumn football
    (less margin for error).

    Then only allowing 8 from (6 pools x 5 teams) to progress to quarter-final knockout phases
    would vastly open-up Last 16/Last 32 February exposure to the Europa League AND Europa Conference like never seen since the 1990's.


    For this to happen,
    yes - there may be some short-term bitterness in the adjustments.

    But IF UEFA have finally recognised that FFP was never anything more than an ethical blanket clubs needed to abide by in the 21st century, recognising that protecting the interests of football and all global sports as a entity to participate in fall all ages, genders and backgrounds, as well as watching and learning from ever-increasing skill-inventives, is an opportunity all of power in society owe the world to get together and approach with progressive, creative vision.


     
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  9. The Doc

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    Those clubs who had FFP in place to maintain status quo, now want it scrapped to maintain status quo?
     
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    Yep, Barca £800m in debt will somehow splash the cash in summer same with Madrid also now looking at invites to CL.
     
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    Definitely all money but I think Qualifying rounds will be scrapped. It's the only way to accommodate?
     
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    The proposed "Swiss Model" will completely demean the competition.

    Games will quickly become utterly pointless and the sides with nothing to play for will start turning out second string sides in order to concentrate on their domestic league.

    That will also make the games boring and uninteresting. People at UEFA must have short memories because they scrapped the second group stage in the CL precisely because group stages are the least interesting part of the competition.

    As said above, it's purely about "more games = more money" and trying to stave off threats of a breakaway European super league by basically creating the league.
     
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    The problem seems to be you have a lot of (mostly) men in these high up positions earning hundreds of thousands to "run" football. They feel the need to keep coming up with ways to change things in order to legitimise their positions and keep themselves feeling relevant.

    It will never end, and even after this they will look to change things again further a few years down the line. The only way to fix this imo would be some form of fan ownership agreement where you split decision making with an elected supporters group/board that can wrestle some of the control away.

    Perhaps even a group of elected officials from all aspects of football, you could have a board made up of ex-players, journalists, officials and fans.
     
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    Leivapool Arrogantly inferior.

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    The Swiss system is shite and this entire proposal is an absolute nonsense.
     
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    I wonder if this is going to be opposed strongly as well.
     
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  17. Super_horns

    Super_horns WATFORD Till I Die
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    Think it’s too late for that.

    All been agreed by the clubs.
     
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    Ah I see.
     
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    I fthe Swiss model was implemented properly it could actually be alright. If done properly round 1matches woukd be drawn at random. In round 2 those that won their game are drawn against each other, those that lost play each other. You continue to draw teams against those on the same score (where possible) until the required amount of games have been played. Therefore, to finish unbeaten, you are likely going to play the best teams throughout.
     

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