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Cardiff player in plane crash

Discussion in 'Premier League' started by Old codger, Jan 22, 2019.

  1. Taffy

    Taffy C'mon you reds.

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    Meanwhile the pilot has still not been found so his family cannot move on and give him a burial.
     
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  2. Kirby

    Kirby We count the votes

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  3. Super_horns

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    Very sad - will there be criminal charges as a result ?
     
  4. Riverside

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    The Civil Aviation Authority is already undertaking a criminal investigation which could lead to charges.
     
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  5. SamB_SCFC

    SamB_SCFC FF Old Skool

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    There should be criminal charges for whoever was involved with selecting the plane and pilot and either failing to check his credentials or deliberately taking the risk in the knowledge that he doesn't have the right qualifications and experience.

    The pilot obviously should be charged because he'd have known that he wasn't licenced for that flight but he's already paid the ultimate price for his actions.
     
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  7. BleedsIsDead

    BleedsIsDead They Love You When You're Dead

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    *Unless we have to pay money and then both you and your grieving family can f*ck off
     
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  9. Super_horns

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  10. Tomohawk

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    Just sounds like someone putting money over the value of people's lives.
    It's just abhorrent that someone owning and operating equipment that when not handled properly can often result in death can be so blasé about authorising anyone to fly a plane, irrelevant of their skill and qualifications.

    I assume there is a custodial sentence lingering over this bloke now?
     
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  11. Kirby

    Kirby We count the votes

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    Seems like the fault of this bloke and the pilot who wasn't licensed to fly commercial planes or fly at night. Obviously he tragically died so all the heat has landed on the organiser.

    I'm no expert on light aircraft but I'd imagine this sort of thing happens off the books all the time without incident. You could say they were unlucky but there's obviously a reason all these regulations are in place and they arrogantly failed to adhere to them. The only one without blame was Sala himself. He probably thought it was all above board. Poor bloke.
     
  12. Tomohawk

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    You're right in all aspects of this post - the pilot would have absolutely known that he wasn't qualified to fly that plane at that time and whilst it's always likely in these situations that the boss would have applied some pressure to him, he could of and should of refused.

    Out of interest (and this is a general question not aimed at Kirby), would football clubs have some sort of contract with a private charter airline like this for the transporting of players in this manner or would it just be done ad hoc as and when necessary? Clearly the owner wanted the job at all cost whichever it was!
     
  13. Kirby

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    Really sad state of affairs. Somebody who lives on was always going to be held accountable. Pilot should've backed off. No amount of money is worth a Life.
     
  15. StretfordEnd

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    I'm not sure this jail term really serves any purpose. :shrug
    The pilot obviously was to blame, and he chose to risk his own life in what it transpired was an aircraft not fit for purpose and without the proper skills. As @Tornado says it's just a sad episode for all concerned.
     
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    Yes it was the Pilots fault but at the same time the flight organizers knew the risks and knew they were asking someone to break the law and risk lives.

    It's akin to hiring a hitman. Yes the hitman did the murdering but the person doing the hiring is also liable.
     
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    I guess it's to try to stop people organising flights which breach safety regulations and put people's lives at risk for profit. The judge quoted a message from Henderson to David Ibbotson as follows: ‘We both have the opportunity to make money out of the business model but not if we upset clients or draw the attention of the CAA’. The judge it seems believed there was a pattern of illegal hiring operations by Henderson that breached CAA regulations and stated in summing-up that he acted 'recklessly rather than merely negligently'.
     
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  18. StretfordEnd

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    True enough.

    Not really, hiring a hitman shows an intent to kill, whereas it seems this David Henderson chap was trying to cut corners to save money, I'm sure he felt that even though short cuts were being made everything would turn out to be 'okay'. I agree that he's culpable, but just don't see what's to be gained by chucking a bloke of his age into clink.
     
  19. Shane

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    Sends a message out to others that also cut corners I suppose. He gambled with people's lives and he's already lived his whilst two younger people have lost theirs.
     
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  20. Kirby

    Kirby We count the votes

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    Pure greed.

    Probably happens all the time, but if something like this occurs and you get caught unfortunately you don't have a leg to stand on.
     

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