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The Race To League One

Discussion in 'Championship' started by Panja, Oct 4, 2020.

  1. tiltontrev

    tiltontrev **~Key Worker~**

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    Massive day this could be for us, the most comfortable 2-0 in the history of the game, check the other scores and they’ve pretty much gone perfectly, a nine point gap to the bottom three would have been unthinkable a month ago, it’s like watching a completely different team.

    One more win and I’ll feel as though we’ve done enough.
     
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  2. RedDogChris

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    Aye we had a similar situation years ago with a toxic manager in Gary Megson, we were dire and heading for league two under his stewardship we sacked him and finished up with automatic promotion form under caretaker managers. Seems like the players have been lifted by Karanka going there too
     
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  3. Lord Cavendish

    Lord Cavendish Leading the Charge!

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    We look a different side.

    One more win should keep us up.

    If we stay up I am optimistic for next season as we do have some good players.
     
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  4. Panja

    Panja In a land down under

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    And so it is proven, Karanka's management skills are on a Gianfranco Zola scale. We all hoped but most of us noses knew that we had a decent squad of players and six games under Lord Bowyer has seen a remarkable turnaround. It feels nice to finally look below us and not have to worry about going down.
     
  5. RedDogChris

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    Its really weird because he did SEEM like a decent manager with us, we started to play some good football after some real turgid stuff initially and I thought we would have finished in the playoffs in his first full season if he was given the chance to see it out. I guess he only works well with specific player types and isn't tactically flexible enough, he did have the most backing of any Forest manager so I guess he really is just a chequebook manager
     
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  6. Super_horns

    Super_horns WATFORD Till I Die
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    Living off the Boro success a bit when they were very solid and nicked wins.
     
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  7. RedDogChris

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    He could have repeated the trick with us hadn't he thrown a hissy fit with the board demanding another 20 million to spend.
     
  8. tiltontrev

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    He should never work in England again after taking a pretty decent championship squad to the brink of relegation.

    He should be looking at what Bowyer is getting from the squad with complete embarrassment.
     
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    I think you might be getting carried away. Birmingham have struggled for three seasons. Thats not just a Manager or two. Yes theres a bounce factor, but are you sure thats not all it is?
     
  10. Panja

    Panja In a land down under

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    Well those results were nice to wake up to. Heavy defeats for Wycombe (doomed), Wednesday (as good as doomed) and Coventry (trying not to be doomed, failing), while Birmingham continue picking up points since Lord Bowyer walked into town and Rotherham cling onto the hope that those COVID games in hand will somehow come in useful. I think they’re doomed myself.
     
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    It’s easy to think this way without scrutiny. Rowett was sacked with the side in 5th position.

    Zola almost took that same set of players down to league one.
     
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    Fair enough. I obv dont scrutinise you and we just got back here, so it is a perspective from afar.

    I just get the feeling - not necessarily from you btw- that there seem to be quite a few clubs/fans that think they deserve a spot at the bigger table than theyve currently earned, rather than understanding its a case of dog eat dog and survival of the fittest. And that other than the very biggest, its generally a cyclical thing.
     
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  13. shaka

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    I hope so but probably feel we need at least another 5 points to be safe.
     
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    Birmingham doing more than enough to stay up. Do I see Bowyer as some genius who will be at Birmingham years and establish them in prem? No. Bowyer is good to the point of rallying the troops and improving a struggling outfit, and he's perfect for them atm. But history suggests he has his limitations.
     
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    History suggests an one trick pony that demands blood and guts from his players.

    He’ll need more than that once the players stop responding to it.

    Thus far he’s come across as a consummate professional.

    In his pre and post match interviews he speaks very well.

    I would love it if he proves us all wrong.
     
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  16. Lord Cavendish

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    Certainly agree with this.
    Harry the Gangster kept us up a few seasons back and everyone was buzzing for the next season. He was given a hefty transfer budget but we still bombed at the start of the flowing season and he was fired.

    If Bowyer keeps us up the job really starts after he has spent money for next season.
     
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    Sorry I can’t agree with it whatsoever. Harry saved us spent loads and was then bombed out rather early if you ask me. Certainly wasn’t given the time Karanka was afforded.

    Same players different manager under Monk and we thrived.

    It’s definitely down to the management when we struggle we have players more than capable of mid table as oppose to fighting relegation.
     
  18. Lord Cavendish

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    He had the money though and spent it.

    Whether he was sacked too early is debatable in itself. The board obviously expected us to be at the top rather than the bottom of the table.

    The point I was trying to make is the honeymoon period is well and truly over come August. Assuming we stay up of course!

    The modern game demands results more or less instantly.
     
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  19. Panja

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    Pretty much this to be honest..
     
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  20. Lord Cavendish

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    I don't know the details of Bowyer's contract as in how long it is for, so it will be interesting if it is 3 years when so many questions are being raised about his ability to take Brum to the next level.

    I guess if he keeps us up then I he should be given his opportunity.
     
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