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Discussion in 'Technology & Gaming' started by Crespo, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. Crespo

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    Tempted to sell my old build and make something out of the new Ryzen zen 2 processors.

    Would mean switching from Intel but might be best in the long term. Anyone upgraded recently? Last couple of years etc :laugh:
     
  2. Ollie

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    Lads, I need some advice on upgrading my PC... I got quite clued up in 2013 when I built it but since then I've not been keeping track of things at all as I've barely touched the components since. My SSD went down the shitter the other week & that's made me think about replacing the other bits & pieces before they fail. This is what I'm working with...

    Intel i5-4670k CPU
    Crucial 1TB MX500 SSD
    Gigabyte z87-d3hp motherboard
    Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 OC 3GB GPU
    8GB Crucial Ballistix RAM
    Coolermaster GX 650W Bronze PSU
    500 GB external HDD
     
  3. TAFKAP

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    Okay mate. What’s it going to be used for, and what’s the budget?
     
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    I upgraded to the Ryzen 1700 just after it came out, and wouldn’t change a thing. Fantastic processor.

    Don’t go for any of the “x” series; they are just preclocked and you can easily get the same performance by overclocking a base model.
     
  5. King_Kenny

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    Yeah same here. Ten years or so I was pretty competent with computers, although never built one from scratch, I knew what was what and what went where, I could pretty much change anything, understood jumper settings, bios, etc.

    But these days things have moved on a few levels and I couldn't tell you whats the best processors, whats the better HDs, graphics, memory, etc...
     
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  6. Richard

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    I built a PC when Pentium 4 was the shit. The first hats how long ago I was computer savvy :laugh:

    Just got myself a Dell G7 laptop which is the bollox. Paid for by none other than Matched betting funds lol.
     
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    I've just got an Xbox for PC pass, 3 months for £4, & I saw some other free trials for similar services like Ubisofts one etc so seems like a good excuse to get back into playing a few games. So a new GPU is a priority, but I don't want my CPU & PSU (& even motherboard) to bottleneck the new card so I may need to upgrade all those along with it. I want a graphics card that can handle all the latest games, I've pre-installed Gears of war 5, Forza 4, & I want to be able to play stuff like Cyberpunk when that comes out. I'm prepared to pay decent money for this so I don't need to touch it again for years. I'd pay between £200-£350 for one, depends what is the best value card. I saved myself about 500 quid getting everything individually rather than buying pre-built when great deals popped up over the space of a few months when I built my last one, all cost me under £800. I'm after the best bang for buck stuff again this time.

    I use my computer heavily for browsing the internet & I usually have a shitload of tabs open, so maybe I need more RAM to boost the memory to handle that? When I built it people would always say more than 8GB was pointless but sometimes I experience slow down that may be a memory issue.

    The speed of boot up & turning off has rapidly increased with my new SSD, but I might get one of those even faster NVME ones? SSDs are the only thing I have a tiny bit of modern knowledge of as I had to replace it the other week... but I couldn't be arsed fiddling about & getting an adaptor etc, my motherboard wasn't compatitible with the newest technology. This isn't a priority but would need to be able to upgrade to that newer technology when I want. I've also seen an 8TB HDD that I might get that would last me ages, £120 seems like a good deal for that much, sick of deleting stuff off my HDDs, & I don't wanna load up too much on my SSD.

    My case is an absolute stinking pile of shite, I skimped on that to put money elsewhere, so I might as well upgrade that as well.

    Monitor wise I use my 40 inch Samsung D7000 TV pictured below (not my wallpaper, stock photo lol), not sure if that will hold back the quality of the graphics I'm seeing. I'm probably gonna upgrade to a more modern 65 inch TV in a Black Friday deal, so would like to know what I need to be looking out for when I get one gaming wise.

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    Feckin hell, wrote War & Peace volume 2. :laugh:
     
  8. Tornado

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    I have iMac

    Mac (Retina 5K, 27-inch)
    4.2 GHz Intel Core i7 Quad
    32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
    Radeon Pro 575 4 GB
    500GB SSD

    I previously had an iMac for 4 years and not a single problem. Ran like new but then the Graphics card burnt out. It was the 2011 model I think. Turned out it was a known problem but missed the deadline to have it replaced by 3 months or something.

    My current one is so fast. I always future proof my computers hence why I go expensive. I was a Windows man for so long and took a chance on the iMac and will never go back to Windows. My windows computers always slowed dow after around 8 months even when I don't store anything. Always up to date and clean. Still goes slow.

    I bought my current iMac in December, 2017 and still runs like a bullet. So quiet as well.
     
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    Sorry mate, just coming back to this now. What’s your current CPU and MoBo?
     
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    Intel i5-4670k CPU
    Crucial 1TB MX500 SSD
    Gigabyte z87-d3hp motherboard
    Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 OC 3GB GPU
    8GB Crucial Ballistix RAM
    Coolermaster GX 650W Bronze PSU
    500 GB external HDD
     
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    Definitley want to bump that RAM to 16gb.
    Memory both RAM and GPU memory are increasingly being used these days. The trend doesn't appear to be slowing down.

    Remind me, is your RAM DDR3 or 4, I think your chip is haswell gen so if I remember correctly its ddr3, which would not function with the latest chipsets.

    So unfortunately if you wanted a sizeable upgrade to your CPU, you would need a new motherboard, CPU, and RAM.
    650w is fine for most modern GPUs, unless you are going for something crazy. So you may get away with keeping that so long as its functioning well.

    Would need to know your budget and how much you are willing to change out.

    Ryzen is very affordable and performs better or close to on par with Intel in almost every area while at a much cheaper price point so that would likely be your best bet. And use the extra cash for a nice GPU.
     
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    Should I be looking at DDR4 RAM? Which RAM should I be looking at?

    I'm willing to change everything eventually. Budget, I'd be happy with these kinds of prices based on the little reearch I've done...

    GPU - something like the MSI AMD RX Vega 56 is about £250. But if I could get something worth the extra I would if it was good value. Might be worth stretching to £300-£350 on a GPU so it lasts longer.

    CPU - something like the AMD Ryzen 5 2600X around £140. Again, if something is more worth my money I'd pay extra, I just want the best bang for my buck.

    Motherboard - something like the ASUS TUFH370-PRO Gaming @ £140. I would spend more on something like the Aorus Z390 AORUS ULTRA for £240 if it's worth it. Not sure what features I need.
     
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    Just bought these cos they were £15 off (paid £82) in an Amazon lightening deal & RAM never really seems to fall much in price despite seemingly not that much advancement in the technology, so probably the right time to buy.

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    Gonna need a new motherboard to put them in now, & a new CPU. & will splash out on a top GPU.
     
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    I'm running a Ryzen processor and I wouldn't change it for anything - the best upgrade money I ever spent. So frankly, get the best Ryzen processor you can afford and then choose your motherboard from there. (Making sure you keep enough over for your GPU, obviously!)
     
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    Which one? All the sites recommend the Ryzen 5 3600 as competitive with top tier CPUs plus great bang for buck, so I'm looking at that plus an MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX as the motherboard. Here's the potential components I've gathered so far...

    System Builder

    Also looking at possibly an AMD 5700 GPU, but might just bite on a great deal I see on a GPU in that range of performance.
     
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    I don't really keep much of an eye on the gaming laptop market to be honest, but it certainly seems good enough to do the job!

    The Ryzen is a great CPU, and I use the older B350 Tomahawk in my machine. Again, no complaints and really easy to overclock with.

    If you're looking at the 5700, also consider the GTX 2060. I would spend some time Googling the GPU performance in the games you tend to play, as one can often be a lot better than another in certain titles (especially where there are marketing tie-ins etc).
     
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    Went for the MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON in the end because unlike the Tomahawk it has WIFI, Bluetooth & an extra M2 slot. I plan on getting a few NVME SSDs in the future when the price comes down on them so the extra M2 slot will be handy. I'll have to flash the BIOS before using it to go with my
    AMD Ryzen 5 3600 but it looks simple enough as the board has a flash BIOS button.

    Just bought them both from CCL Computers Ebay shop with a 10% off code which saved me over 20 quid on what I woulda paid on any of the cheapest prices online, code was expiring today so that prompted me to buy now... even though I have no GPU yet! :laugh: On my last build I bought my GPU first cos it was £100 off in some mega deal then built the rest around it, probably made more sense as it's most expensive... but hopefully some great deal will come along soon, will check out that GTX 2060 now...
     
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    Fair enough mate. I use an NVME drive for my OS and a couple of frequently played games, but actually find a SATA SSD more than good enough for most applications. If you’re playing purely offline games you might get a small benefit from NVME, but don’t bother putting online games on one; your load-in times are down to the slowest user in the lobby anyway.

    Because I play online a lot and my PC is next to my router, I have no need for WiFi either. If you get a chance, test your performance on WiFi vs hard-wired as it’s quite significant for FPS games in particular.
     
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    Yeah I'll have it plugged in via Ethernet most of the time for max speed, the router will be right next to the PC, but I can hot spot internet off my phone if the router/internet goes down or more importantly use the WIFI (Amazon Echo, Smart Bulbs etc) & Bluetooth (controllers, speakers etc) to connect to other devices. I think it allows 100MBs wireless so should be decent with no ethernet. It's supposed to have much better sound as well but not sure I'll really notice tbh so wasn't a factor in my decision.

    I don't need an NVME drive yet & I'd be more tempted by some huge HDD drive to store stuff on, can get some great deals on them now. I won't bother with another SATA SSD though as they're much slower than NVMEs for the money you pay so not great value.

    Did you say what GPU you had? Also what PSU did you get? Gonna wait on that to see how many Watts I need after I get a GPU. Oh & the case...
     
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