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  1. scunnymadandy

    scunnymadandy Alfreton 14-0 Sheff Wed

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    To counter all that, we know for a fact there was an even night tracker. Logically it makes sense to have an odd night watcher… far more sense than Joga’s unlimited shot role anyway.
     
  2. Zydus

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    Not Voting (4):
    Frosty, Sgt. Serious, Sandsy, Jason,

    TLC (4): Burg, Mr. Sheen, TLC, RedDevil19,
    Sgt. Serious (1): Joga Bonito,
    Joga Bonito (1): Scunnymadandy,

    With 10 alive it takes 6 to Lynch.
    Deadline 7th October 20:00 UK time
     
  3. Sandsy

    Sandsy Formerly known as manojob

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    I have looked back and TLC claimed she visited Guyett before RD said it was Frosty only. Based on it seeming we have far too many watchers considering we had a tracker too, I am leaning towards RD or Joga lynch. RD's N3 result is an easy one to fabricate to make TLC look worse, though I am not sure when he made his N1 claim of visiting Sgt. Considering I am using his spreadsheet to check claims and activities, he clearly keeps track of these things better than me and the later he made that claim, the more info he would have had and less risk making it.
     
  4. Mr Sheen

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    can I check, does this role stop you from being targeted? As technically you're driving them out of town?
     
  5. Mr Sheen

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    Wild theory from me. But is there a world where RD knows Sgt can't be targeted, given Sgts power?

    And similarly knows Frosty was targeting Guyett? But has been caught out with TLC visiting Guyett (but it not working).

    It's a wild theory. But I am just about considering RD, Frosty and Sgt being a team.
     
  6. Mr Sheen

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    Unless they blocked TLC themselves.
     
  7. scunnymadandy

    scunnymadandy Alfreton 14-0 Sheff Wed

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    Just woke up and the post that sticks in my mind is the one where you mentioned a strongman type role. That would explain TLC not being able to protect Guyett… but doesn’t explain why TLC wasn’t seen by RD.
     
  8. scunnymadandy

    scunnymadandy Alfreton 14-0 Sheff Wed

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    @RedDevil19 keen for your thoughts please. What did you think when you saw Joga’s role claim?
     
  9. RedDevil19

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    :laugh::laugh: what am I reading
     
  10. RedDevil19

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    I am suspicious of Joga for sure
     
  11. Mr Sheen

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    You're reading the scrambled thoughts of a man who has no idea who is scum / town.
     
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  12. Joga bonito

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    I was surprised a claimed watcher was not NK’d or roleblocked N3, but the night actions by scum have been clever/targeting players you would not expect (so giving RD the benefit of a doubt).

    I expect an experienced head in the scum team

    I’m certainly not lynching through the investigative powers before we resolve TLC/Sgt Serious (except for Frosty, who is scum)
     
  13. Sandsy

    Sandsy Formerly known as manojob

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    Trying to explain why we had 3 supposed actions not go through leaves way too much in the air

    Scunny got a no result
    TLC failed to protect Guyett
    RD didn't see TLC visit Guyett

    I am town reading Scunny based on no counter claims to the cop role. I feel we would have one in a game like this and his general play has been very different to past games I have played with him where he has tried to lie low. So he was either roleblocked, or Joga has an ability that protects him from being investigated. Ofc I could be misreading scunny completely in which case, kudos to him.

    TLC - I am leaning more towards town now based on her reaction to the wagon. I don't think scum TLC would vote for herself. Then again I can't figure out why town TLC would either :laugh: Poor TAFKAP must have it rough. Why wouldn't she be able to protect Guyett? Options are she is lying, she was roleblocked or scum have a strongman.

    RD - Either he is lying or TLC was roleblocked. She still would have appeared if they had a strong man surely.

    If Frosty has a bodyguard of some sort, it is a bit much that scum has both a strong power and roleblocker on their team as well, but I think there has to be a roleblocker to explain the no results.

    A few things that aren't sitting right with me

    RD and Joga supposed roles overlapping with a tracker and a cop. Seems a bit much, so I imagine there is a non-town player here.

    Sgt and TLC claims of being doctors. TLC's makes sense but the Sgt claim just seems really unusual. Added to this we had Josh as bodyguard too, which almost acted in balance with TLC's. Then again Frosty's fake claim acts in balance with Scunny's, so perhaps we genuinely have a 3-shot unusual doctor with TLC having the fake claim.

    Burg - UBU seems like an easy fake claim to have, particularly when Josh was the first one to die. Play style has struck me as being suspicious at times with what I felt was an over the top defence when I asked everyone on the Josh wagon why they voted for him. Personally though I would rather try to resolve the similar claims than go down this route though.

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    TLDR, my gut feeling right now is one of RD/Joga and/or Sgt/TLC is where to look.
     
  14. Sandsy

    Sandsy Formerly known as manojob

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    Also worth noting that if Sgt were to flip red I would immediately look at Sheen. Not sure why he would claim to be Vengeful if town when most people were town reading him anyway. Not it just means scum will avoid him. Could be a ploy to avoid being looked at in detail.
     
  15. Sandsy

    Sandsy Formerly known as manojob

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    After pointing my finger at practically everyone but Scunny, it is going to be him isn't it :laugh:
     
  16. RedDevil19

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    If me and Joga are both town then a cop role on top of that feels excessive.

    Personally I will only be voting between TLC and Sgt this day phase
     
  17. Jason

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    Think this is the trap I fell in to last game where I over thought every scenario / player.

    Worth reiterating that we don't know that there is a roleblocker. I think there's a good possibility but there is but the results might be as simple as they are and TLC is scum.

    I'm going to struggle to be convinced going anywhere else today that is pure guesswork and hypotheticals.

    Off out for the football shortly and unlikely to be around at deadline so I'll probably put a vote down soon.
     
  18. scunnymadandy

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    Likewise I am at football this afternoon but should be around for deadline.

    I am happy where my vote is for now. Joga’s been pretty indecisive in this day phase and openly contradicted himself at times. Along with downplaying his role and then trying to move the lynch away from “investigative roles” to deflect attention, he’s giving me Homer Simpson in the bush vibes.
     
  19. TLC

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    It's quoted 3 posts above this one ..... ^^^^^ I've quoted it again for you to make it nice and simples for you.

    I wasn't seen because I was taken out of town by Sgt so despite me requesting to protect Guyett I was kidnapped out of town - Zydus has confirmed that there is not a mod VAR decision required on the night 3 activities

    so being role blocked is the only scenario I can think of - maybe Sgt role blocked me rather than kidnapping me for the night - maybe blocked would mean regardless of my request the visit didn't happen?
     
  20. Burg

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    Let’s not overthink this guys. 5 pages of going back on ourselves more or less.

    My POV:

    TLC is the lynch, Sgt next if she flips town.
     
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