Bundesliga 2016-2017 season thread :

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  1. zippy

    zippy The friendly Fascist

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    Well here we go, the 2nd and 3rd divisions have already started but we still have a short wait until 1BL kicks off in two weeks time.

    Tomorrow night however BVB and Bayern officially open the new season with the supercup in Dortmund. A glorified friendly of course but there is prestige on the line.

    Probable line ups :

    Dortmund :

    Bürki

    Passlack
    Socratis
    Bartra
    Schmelzer

    Castro
    Rode
    Dembele
    Götze
    Schürrle

    Aubameyang

    Bayern :

    Neuer

    Lahm
    Martinez
    Hummels
    Alaba

    Kimmich
    Vidal
    Thiago
    Müller
    Ribery

    Lewandowski
     
  2. Dirk

    Dirk Achtung!

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    Ups, I just wondered where my previous postings in this sticky threads are until I realized that it's already the new season thread who is "stickied" (a bit of a hangover from saturday night it seems)

    To the "Super Cup": I'll watch this today (after the the PL matches Bournemouth vs ManU and Arsenal vs Liverpool) it would be the 3rd live match today.
    Normally I don't give a damn about the outcoming of this match but here it is interesting to see how the new players in Tuchel's team already fit in . Götze should be no problem but Schürrle. After the World Cup 2014 he underperformed for 2 seasons now. It's time that he "delivers".
    A pity that Boateng isn't fit yet. I would like to see the world's best defence in action with Boateng Hummels Lahm Alaba (if Ancelotti uses Lahm in the defence?).

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    2nd Bundesliga: I am over the moon. Eintracht Braunschweig won at St.Paul very convincingly with 2-0. It was the first win at the Millerntor for decades (at least 25 years I would say). And if Hannover wins today, too then 2 Lower Saxonian Teams would be on top of the 2nd Bundesliga.
     
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    Dirk Achtung!

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    Congratulations to Jerome Boateng: Germany's Footballer of the Year 2015/2016

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    Votes:

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    Jerome Boateng - Bayern München - 163 Votes
    Thomas Müller - Bayern München - 95
    Robert Lewandowski - Bayern München - 90
    Toni Kroos - Real Madrid - 68
    Manuel Neuer - Bayern München - 54
    Further Votes:
    Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (Borussia Dortmund, 35), Henrikh Mkhitaryan (Borussia Dortmund, 35), Robert Huth (Leicester City, 16), Mario Gomez (Besiktas Istanbul, 13), Claudio Pizarro (Werder Bremen, 13), Philipp Lahm (Bayern München, 12), Joshua Kimmich (Bayern München, 11), Julian Weigl (Borussia Dortmund, 11), Mats Hummels (Borussia Dortmund, 8), Aytac Sulu (Darmstadt 98, 5), Leroy Sané (Schalke 04, 4), Jonas Hector (1. FC Köln, 3), Mesut Özil (FC Arsenal, 3), Sandro Wagner (Darmstadt 98, 3), André Hahn (Bor. Mönchengladbach, 2), Benedikt Höwedes (Schalke 04, 2), Lars Stindl (Bor. Mönchengladbach, 2), Arturo Vidal (Bayern München, 2)

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    Boateng follows Kevin de Bruyne who won last year. In fact he is the first Defender since Jürgen Kohler who won in 1997.
    Well deserved. One of the best defenders in the World.

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    Interesting the votes for Coach of the Year. Pep Guardiola, who won the Double and was again in the semi-final of the Champions League only on third place:

    Top-5
    Dirk Schuster - Darmstadt 98 - 256 Votes
    Thomas Tuchel - Borussia Dortmund - 134
    Pep Guardiola - Bayern München - 54
    Ralph Hasenhüttl - FC Ingolstadt - 35
    Martin Schmidt - Mainz 05 - 22
    Further votes:
    Joachim Löw (Nationalmannschaft, 19), Julian Nagelsmann (Hoffenheim, 18), Christian Streich (SC Freiburg, 18), Andre Schubert (Bor. Mönchengladbach, 18), Pal Dardai (Hertha BSC, 17), Jürgen Klopp (FC Liverpool, 17), Bernd Hollerbach (Würzburger Kickers, 10), Peter Stöger (1. FC Köln, 9), Markus Weinzierl (FC Augsburg, 9), Niko Kovac (Eintracht Frankfurt, 5), Ewald Lienen (FC St. Pauli, 4), Bruno Labbadia (Hamburger SV, 3), Markus Kauczinski (Karlsruher SC, 2), Ralf Rangnick (RB Leipzig, 2), Bernd Storck (Nationalmannschaft Ungarn, 2), Bernd Schröder (Turbine Potsdam, 2)
     
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    zippy The friendly Fascist

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    Dortmund - Bayern 0-2 ( Vidal, Müller ).
     
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    PorkchopExpress The Blackfish

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    Anyone fancy Munich to actually be pushed this year? I'm hoping Dortmund can give them a run for their money, to make sure they can't rest players for the CL. Otherwise I can see them walking it under Ancelotti. I can't see any of the other teams making an impression in the League.
     
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    zippy The friendly Fascist

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    Dortmund look good tbh.
     
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    First round of the German FA Cup (DFB Pokal) began yesterday with 3 matches. No surprise so far

    Carl Zeiss Jena (Regionalliga Nordost - 4th League) vs Bayern München 0-5
    FV Ravensburg (Oberliga - 5th League) vs FC Augsburg 0-2
    VfB Lübeck (Regionalliga Nord - 4th League) vs St.Pauli 0-3

    Carlo Ancelotti had mixed feelings about Jena, he mentioned. In his playing days with AS Roma in 1980 he played against Carl Zeiss Jena (back then a GDR club) in the European Cup Winners Cup. AS Roma won the 1st leg with 3-0 and were then destroyed in Jena with 4-0. He said that this was one of the most bitter losses of his career.
     
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    zippy The friendly Fascist

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    Bayern are taking up the option to buy Kingsley Coman from Juventus for € 21 million.
     
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    Bargain. It's the right decision. Otherwise he would go to the Premier League later (for the double fee, at least? )

    edit: 1-0 HSV scored in the Cup Match against 3rd Div. Zwickau in the 70th minute. Newcomer Alen Halilovic (Barcelona/Gijon). Already worth the fee ;)

    edit2: HSV won the match and advances to the next round. Not a good match but a win is a win. It's not so easy to win at a 3rd League side as it may seems. Ask Werder Bremen about it. :D
     
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    So, today starts the Bundesliga into its 55th season. As usual in the last years with a (short and boring) Opening ceremony and the actual Champion will open the season (again boring because it's now the 5th time in a row that Bayern will do that). The Game is of course shown live in German Free TV (one of very few Bundesliga Matches that you can see aside from Sky)

    Bayern vs Werder Bremen:

    Everything below 3-0 would be a surprise. Bremen already eliminated from the German Cup last week after they lost against 3rd League Side Lotte :D. Hopefully the "Fischköppe " will be relegated this time. Last season they survived with the last match.
     
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    Not a bad start for Bayern then, just a 6-0 win to kick off the season.
     
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    Could have been 10-0. What a disastrous performance from Werder. Some of the new ones of Werder (don't know the name) had a cramp in the leg. Hilarious.

    btw: I wrote above 55th season but it's the 54th season. Embarrassing:enditall
     
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    Well that was savage. 10-0 is being generous, should have been about 12 or 13. One of the most one-sided matches I've seen in a while.
     
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    zippy The friendly Fascist

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    Werder are dreadful, they lost to an amateur side in the cup last week.
     
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    You are right, Werder is dreadful. But they didn't lose to a pure amateur side in the cup. Sportfreunde Lotte is actually playing in the 3.Liga.

    btw: Lotte are playing in the next round against Bayer Leverkusen. Bayern vs Augsburg.
    Interesting is the match between the old friends Schalke vs Nürnberg

    Here's the draw for the second round: DFB-Pokal 2016/17, der 2. Spieltag
     
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    a little detail:

    The 0-6 from Werder equalised the highest ever starting loss of a Bundesliga Team. Only once a team was beaten with 6-0 at the beginning of the season. Ironically it was Bayern itself who lost 0-6 in the first match of the 1974/75 season against Kickers Offenbach :D

    btw: This was the Bayern Team at that day (In bold are those who won the World Cup 74 with Germany only 6 weeks before:)

    Sepp Maier

    Jupp Kapellmann
    (didn't play in the final)
    Georg Schwarzenbeck
    Franz Beckenbauer

    Johnny Hansen
    Erwin Hadewicz
    Rainer Zobel
    Ulrich Hoeneß
    Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    Gerd Müller
    Klaus Wunder
     
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    16 Goals today in the 3 matches of the 2nd Bundesliga

    Dynamo Dresden vs St. Pauli 1-0
    Arminia Bielefeld vs Union Berlin 4-4
    Eintracht Braunschweig vs FC Nürnberg 6-1 (!!!!)

    So, Eintracht Braunschweig now the only team with a perfect start 3 wins 10-2 Goals :banana::bananadance
     
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    Schalke 04 vs Bayern München 0-2

    Normal result you may say but Schalke didn't deserve to lose this one. They played good for nearly 80 minutes and had some good chances. But that's the problem against Bayern. When you don't convert the chances they'll hurt you in the end and they did exactly that. Lewandowski in the 81st and Kimmich in stoppage time


    edit: Nearly forgotten to mention the Friday matches of the 2nd Bundesliga:

    Aue vs Eintracht Braunschweig 0-2 :bananadance

    Stuttgart vs Heidenheim 1-2 WTF

    So, Braunschweig still with a perfect starting record 4 Matches - 4 Wins
     
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    Neuers save to tip Konplyankas (Think it was him anyway) shot onto the bar was world class, best save i've seen in a long time
     
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    It was Huntelaar.
     
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