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  1. turfmanphil

    turfmanphil Registered User

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    I would sum up the appointment as follows:

    Laws deserves to succeed but he certainly wont have it easy. The appontment felt wrong to me and still does to some degree but I warmed to him at the news conference and what he has said since. But actions speak louder than words.

    I just so hope he proves the pundits and critics wrong and we stay up. All he has to do is beat Bolton & Blackburn and he will be hero-worshipped! Go Brian.go!
     
  2. Gatti

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    Seems a bit dull on the interviews ive heard. Sounds like he's making it up as he goes along :laugh: I want to see how much dosh the board are going to give him to spend this month. Wasn't keen on him being in charge myself but thats tough now because he's here so no point bitching about it any further, did plenty of that the other night

    Honest opinion right now though instead of being wise after the event, i reckon he's going to be another Steve Cotterill this and next season. YES the football might be better but results wise i dont think he'll cut the mustard.

    Proves me wrong i'll be the 1st to hold my hands up.
     
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    turfmanphil Registered User

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    I will be 100% behind him despite some doubts. He sounds a genuine guy to me and given the chance looks like he is going to be far more loyal than that Judas pig we have just got rid of. He will get a budget not a big one but presumably he accepted that in getting the job. The sticking point will be salary. Club are determined not to break the salary cap of £15k/week which is why we have just lost out on Kilgallon despite Nixon spouting bollox again in the Mirror.

    As for Cotterill as far as I am concerned he doesn't deserve the stick he still gets. Cotterill may not have been nice to watch but he kept us in the Championship on zero money whilst having to sell his key players in every Jan window. Owls may have played better football but it got them nowhere and we always finished above them I think. I would also say that half the current squad if not more were Cotterill signings.I bet if we had Cottercoyle in charge this season with Coyle at home and Cotterill away we would be near to 30 points and almost safety by now. We need someone more defence minded to grind out results away from home a la Cotts; it might not be pretty but it could ensure survival
     
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    Steve Cotterill might well have kept us up but where was he taking us. ALL managers at Burnley since ive been watching us have a very limited budget no matter what level were at. Solid enough start to his Burnley career but from there the only place he was taking us was backwards. Im not having a go at him its a fact.

    As a man though as ive said before one of the most ignorant, self important ******s ive ever met.
     
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    I don't think it was a question of where he was taking us,it was a question of the fans potentially getting on his back again something the Club could not afford to take chances with. Had Cotts gone on another bad run, it would have put him under tremendous pressure with the fans baying for even more blood. Folk forget though how he consolidated the team after Ternent left adopting tactics that were right at the time having to virtually build a squad with no money certainly far less than Coyle ever got to work with.

    The club were right to let him go by mutual consent when they did and try a fresh approach but that doesn't mean we should forever be sticking the knife into Cotts
     
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    It was a matter of where he was taking us. Dont forget he went 18 or 19 games without a win, the board stood by him and he still didnt imporve things so got fired off which was right. I dont think there was anyway back for him after so many games and very few wins towards the end. I dont forget anything Cotterill did because like a lot of Burnley fans i paid to watch the shite we produced under him more often than not.

    He wasnt as hard done by as some would have you believe either. Signed Caldwell for decent money and Ade Akinbiyi and a couple of others too. Anyhow we've been down this road about Cotterill before. I backed him all the way while he was in charge and never booed him but IMO the board made the right call when they sacked him.

    In some peoples eyes the board stayed too loyal to him
     
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    Yes he went on a 18 or 19 games without a win but then eventually turned things round towards the end of the season finishing the highest we had in sometime beating the likes of Birmingham away and nearly beating Sunderland at their place in one of the most exciting entertaining games I had seen in a while. You have to look at what happens over the whole of a season and in that particular season we had two excellent spells at the start and end but a terrible one in between and wasn't that the season we lost Gray to injury with no money to bring in a decent replacement?

    He had lost the fans hearts by then though and no matter what he did after that it wouldn't be good enough so the club were right in letting him go. Personally I have seen just as much so-called shite played away from home this season and I am pretty sure we would have had far points away from home under Cotterill by now.

    I saw some interesting stats the other day which I hope doesn't mean doom&gloom but Laws actually did worse in charge of Shef Wed than Cotts did in the Championship winning less games and getting fewer points despite playing so-called more attractive football
     
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    How did he start of t he season when he got sacked, not too clever was it otherwise the board wouldnt have sacked him. As far as the stats go between Cotterill and Laws im not that interested. Ive already said what i make of Laws mid table championship side all over at the very best next season.


    As ive also said will be more than happy to eat my words IF he proves me wrong and i hope he does. Thats all ive got to say on it now
     
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    Totally in agreement with you over Laws, he is supposed to play the same style of football as Coyle but I hope he can freshen up the squad's thinking and bring in a Plan B especially away
     
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    He's definitely got the gift of the gab!

    Everyone here at S6 thinks he's a lovely, lovely guy. You will struggle to find one person to say anything negative about his personality/mannerisms etc.

    If he had half as much talent as he does personality, then he'd be managing a far better club than Burnley. No offence intended there, just want to stress what a nice bloke BL seems to be.

    Do not give him dosh!!!

    That was a common point on Owlstalk.co.uk...people genuinely interested to see who he'll waste the money on. I wouldn't trust him to spend a million wisely in any league. I'd spend it better.

    He has no Plan B. Never did with us and that cost him his job.

    For the record I think Brian Laws is a great guy, but that counts for nothing. His managerial talent is.....shaky!!! Hopefully he'll do well though for yous.

    Good luck today - enjoy it! :)
     
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    I personally don't think that Laws deserved a job at a Premier League club in my view. He didn't deserve the job at Sheff Wed when we took him from Scunthorpe. He just about got a small club promotoed, then hasn't done that much here.

    I think your board has seen that he can do ok on a small budget. I think he is a fantastic coach, but not great when buying players. If he keeps you up he has done a fantastic job, because I think you have nowhere near a good enough squad to survive. If he even comes close to keeping you up, I think he has done a good job also. But I think you'll see how your season pans out when you give him money, because all I can see you doing is trying to attract top CCC players.
     

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