'Rangers' NewCo to play in Scottish First Division?

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  1. AJB

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    "Rangers FC plc is soon to be liquidated and Charles Green's consortium are reforming the club.

    But Green's Rangers newco has not gained support to replace the old club in the Scottish Premier League.

    And senior Scottish football figures are proposing that Rangers start season 2012-13 in the second tier."


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18625293

    So what does everyone think about this then?

    I think it's a disgrace. How can a brand new entity, a brand new club, just stroll in at the second tier?
     
  2. The Fuzz

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    Why won't they join the English football pyramid if they have to start at the bottom anyways ?
     
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    Because they're not in England, and the English don't want them.

    On top of that, there's much more depth to our league set-up so they'd probably have to start in somewhere around the 6th tier.
     
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    Neither are Swansea and Cardiff ?

    If they are going to spend 2-3 years away from the top division and another couple of years before they actually challenge Celtic again, joining the bottom of the English pyramid might seem like a better alternative.

    Long term it might be the perfect opportunity for them to enter the PL ? Maybe that is one of the reasons that "senior Scottish football figures are proposing that Rangers start season 2012-13 in the second tier".
     
  5. Lisbon 67

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    Of course it's a disgrace. . . .it's an utter scandal but the footballing authorities have favoured the old club up here for over a century. They are now in the process of inventing a scam that favours the new zombie Rangers club.

    To put them into the first division only highlights the situation with football in Scotland.

    The business world acted accordingly and liquidated them. . . . .The corrupt footballing authorities up here are inventing scams that evade natural justice and law to make sure they are helped.
     
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    Well it still requires a vote from the SFL clubs, and quite a few of them are against this,

    So hopefully it will be a No Vote again
     
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    Yes but Cardiff and Swansea were accepted into the English league system during it's early stages. That is a totally different situation. For a start, I don't think they were brand new clubs when they joined the English footbal league.



    You haven't thought that statement through have you? Do you realise that the "bottom of the English pyramid" would be about 10 promotions away from the Football League (let alone the Premier League)

    Or are you suggesting that this brand new 'Rangers' should just be allowed to stroll into another country's footballing system, pick themselves a level they would like to play at, and then start competing in that division?

    Cos you can piss right off with that!
     
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    I don't think it does.

    They are attempting to relegate the oldco (who still have an SPL share) and then transfer the membership to the newco in Division one. The SFL clubs would not get a vote on that.

    An utter scandal based on corruption in favour of a new Rangers tribute act.
     
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    this was in the story

     
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    AFC Wimbeldon took 9 years for 5 promotions to reach League 2 ? I reckon their fan base, stadium etc etc Rangers could top that, but obviously still talking about a 10 year time frame till they reach the Championship.


    It would probably all be academical anyway because I reckon Rangers would be declared "too big to fail " ? I have heard stats that many other clubs in the SPL depend on the Old Firm clubs for a part of their revenue and not too mention that the SPL TV deal would also take a big hit without the Old firm derby games. Add to the fact that even before this the SPL wasn't in the rosiest of health, Rangers might end up getting off relatively lightly.
     
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    Hope it is the way you see it m8.

    STVGrant on twitter is usually on the ball and sees it the way i've explained. . . .hope he's wrong though.
     
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    • Rangers are to be relegated with immediate effect and replaced in the SPL by Dundee.
    • Television rights for Rangers matches in Scottish Football League Division One are to be bought by the SPL for £1m.
    • The SPL and SFL will merge into one body at the start of season 2013-14.
    • Play-offs between the top two divisions will be introduced in time for the coming season with one team from the top flight and three from the second tier competing for a place in the following season's SPL.
    • There will be an increase in the parachute payments made to clubs relegated from the SPL.
    • Changes will be made to the distribution model for clubs in the top two tiers with teams in the lower leagues earning a similar amount to the current set-up.
    • A new pyramid system will become effective from season 2014-15 that will allow a potential place in the new league format for a team from either the Highland league or newly-created 'Lowland League'.
    • Rangers newco's acceptance into the Scottish FA would only be approved if they accept responsibility for the football debts and fines incurred by the pervious club along with their waiving of rights to a legal challenge.

    Play-offs and pyramid system just what our game needs.
     
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    Needed it long ago m8.

    It's the reasons it is now being offered thats the scandal.
     
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    So, are they the proposals?

    Or is that what's actually going to happen now?
     
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    So they even put a play off in there to give the new team an even better chance of being promoted? Cant say thats not fair:rolleyes

    Yet they have to accept football debts and fines of a defunct club? Why would they do that? Its nothing short of blackmail by the SFA and hopefully will be ripped apart in the courts. This is scandalous by the SFA and they should now (yes I'm going to say it again) be ousted and replaced by Uefa until it can be confident that a national association is capable.
     
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    how can you relegate a club that no longer exists?

    SFA fecking joke, and no back bone
     
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    I thought that.

    But it turns out, Rangers have not been liquidated yet, so technically they still exist as a football club and as a company.
     
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    Play offs have been required for years but it takes for this situation to arise to make them put them in place. That's the sad thing with scottish football.
     
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    Thats correct. . . . .Rangers are on death row awaiting their doom. They are a shell company with no assets and no players about to be killed off.

    And the SFA wan't to relegate them so that the transfer of membership can go to the newco in division one. . . .a total scandal.

    Whether it is viable or not the very fact the authorities in this country have masterminded this scam shows what length they will go to in order to keep a newco Rangers from starting at the bottom like any other club in the country would have to. . . . . It also shows the rest of the world what Celtic (and the other clubs) have to deal with in Scottish Football.


    Good to see Aberdeen have just released a statement saying 'NEWCO RANGERS SHOULD APPLY TO THE SFL IN THE SAME WAY THAT ANY OTHER NEW CLUB WOULD HAVE TO DO'

    Exactly!
     
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    Why did we change to the way we did in 1998? Down to the old firm and money
     

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