Probably Lawyers arguing last minute points of order. Al Fayed used to have Lawyers on a revolving door, fighting UEFA rules, the PL, EFL, even his own managers, players agents, he did it just to piss them off, most of the time he didn't win.
Think it was more due to both Everton & Forest blatantly ignoring the warnings they were given by the PL, especially Everton who got about 3 warnings over previous seasons (and only once Usmanov had stepped down did they start to take notice).
Our PSR problems are self-inflicted to an extent although there are some mitigating factors for us (promotion bonuses, coming up with no parachute payments etc) so I don't have too much sympathy for the club about this. My gripe is with the incompetence and/or cheating of the PGMOL which is obviously an arm of the Premier League which itself dances to the tune of Sky and the other broadcasters pumping billions in. Obviously you don't watch Forest week in, week out so I wouldn't expect you to understand or appreciate this but since around Christmas particularly we have been done over in some way or another virtually every week. I'm not talking odd decisions like a contentious corner or something I'm talking game-changing decisions. If I could be arsed to list them I would be reaching double figures easily in the games we've been shafted which may or may not have resulted in us losing points, and there is absolutely no doubt to me and many other NFFC fans that it became worse and more blatant when Clattenburg came in. If we had even semi-competent officiating this season we'd have been safe weeks ago, regardless of any points deduction.
I think we all get how absolutely awful the refs can be and how absolutely diabolical Webb and the pgmol are at protecting incompetence. I'd have no problem believing that they did close ranks and act poorly due to clattenburg. Barcelona are in trouble for paying the guys who would be in positions similar to Webb for info on refs etc. It's not unheard Of to try to know each ref and exploit them but clattenburg has poked the bear even more and the bear bites back even though it's supposedly above that.
I think Burnley feel the same too. Even on Saturday they could have had an early penalty before Newcastle scored .
What a Tory statement. You've had your 3 seasons in the Prem so get a larger amount to lose than a team with 2 in the Championship, a new team to buy and promotion bonuses to pay. We're feeling the effects of being promoted when the club wasn't ready, but with regards to your comment... talk about pulling the ladder up.
To be fair you deserve a points deduction for appointing that utter moron alone. Did all the other promoted teams overspend by £34.5m then?
Luton would already be relegated but for Premier League intervention. Apologies, but it was a blatantly I'm alright Jack, lacking any sort of empathy towards ex-Championship clubs or critical thinking towards a regime's governance.
Not at all. I've repeatedly said on here how much I like Forest but I'm just trying to understand where some of you are coming from with this one. The club knew the rules and broke them, even when they had a chance to rectify it. They also spent an unprecedented amount after promotion due to having a squad full of loan players, which isn't anyone else's fault, that's on Forest's board for poor recruitment management. I'm totally on board with bashing the PL and understand the overall disdain for them, which has obviously been exasperated by recent decisions on the pitch as well, but this is a separate issue. You overspent by a significant amount so deserved to be punished. As I said, more than happy to rinse the PL otherwise but I think some Forest fans need to direct their anger at their own club for some of their shambolic decision making (a couple on here have in fairness). Appointing (and then clearly sacking) Mark Clattenburg was just the icing on the cake.
Sorry but Brentford prove it can be done and done well. Most clubs don't need to "buy a new team" The truth is forest did really well with loanees etc got a shock promotion and just went mad. Thry are going to get away with going mad too but still think that somehow tjryve been done over? Sorry but no. And I've a lot of time for forest and their fans as a brother in law is one but nah. Same for Everton. I have lots of blues in my family and they have done the same and tried it on with covid to hide the overspend and have also just about got away with it but it will rumble on. We are all just waiting for chelsea and city to get theirs. That should i hope draw a line under the one rule for some stuff too.
I hold the ownership accountable. What I won't do is pretend the PL rules are the same for everybody.
An actual quote from the report from our appeal: This is where we feel hard done by. They are literally punishing us for wanting to get value, within the constraints of rules literally called 'Profitability and Sustainability' - whilst saying that you shouldn't be prioritising making a profit. When you've got Chelsea selling hotels to themselves to stay within FFP guidelines, and City facing 115 charges and yet to see any sort punishment - you have a right to be slightly miffed.
I totally agree with that, but two (*three) wrongs still don't make a right. All the other teams at the bottom (bar Everton) knew the rules and spent within their means.
We deserved to be punished as we broke rules that applied to all the clubs - but I'm glad that we've kicked up a fuss about it. They're obviously not fit for purpose. It's clear more clubs will fall short in the next few seasons. Interested to see (if we do stay up) whether we attempt to stay within FFP guidelines now we know that our punishment for a second breach will only be 2 points? The club have kept quiet regarding a response to the appeal verdict as well. When we're so noisy about everything else, we've decided to say nothing. Not even giving the PL the pleasure of a response.
