Charlie Adam

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  1. King_Kenny

    King_Kenny JUSTICE FOR THE 97!

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    I'd certainly be happy if he kept up his impressive (for a midfielder) ratio of a goal every 3.7 games.

    Danny Murphy, to whom most compare him to, has scored at a rate of a goal every 5.8 games and Steven Gerrard has scored at a rate of a goal every 3.9 games.
     
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    AlmightyTash Resident Grimbarian

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    How can you consider it impressive for a midfielder? He scored five goals from open play, the rest came from penalties. All that proves is that he can kick a ball in the net at point blank range.

    In Adam Liverpool wanted a player that can get ball behind the defense, but with the skill to go up and get a few himself, but can drop back in needed.

    In Adam Liverpool ended up getting a player that can pass the ball and can score a few, but costs just as many goals with his lack of any defensive ability whatsoever.



    Wherever Adam could conceivably play, there is a better player that can go there already. As a substitute he's perfect. As a first teamer, no chance.
     
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    Adam is a very versetile player, he reminds of Molby in the passing department, some feel he is best at the anchor midfield roll, maybe he will play alongside Agger, at centre defence, he is 6ft 1 inch in hieght. Great tool, as Dirk has been over recent years. A lot of posetivies their Kenny, to put to work.
     
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    AlmightyTash Resident Grimbarian

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    Even Paul Scholes would be better alongside Agger than Adam, at least Scholes is ballsy enough to go into a tackle(regardless of his tackling ability).


    Adam can't tackle, he won't try to tackle, he can't mark, he relies off of other players to defend for him. Scholes would be a more effective Center Back than Charlie Adam.
     
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  5. WBArgo

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    After seeing that highlight reel it's clear he can do long-distance passes. But they are more for show than actually being effective. I know Ferguson said once how it was best to do lots of little ones rather than a big pass, as it had a better chance of keeping possession, and Wenger's philosophy is similar too.

    Bar the pass against us they were all pretty pointless really. However, at £6.5 million you can't complain. However, he's destined to have a worse season after what he did at Blackpool.
     
  6. King_Kenny

    King_Kenny JUSTICE FOR THE 97!

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    Impressive "over his career" like I obviously meant.
     
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    SG Utilisateur inscrit

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    I've seen Adam score fantastic free-kicks, penalties and even directly from a corner last season. That means he specialises in set pieces, as do many many other footballers. In fact, most premiership midfielders didn't even score 5 goals last season, so getting 5 from open play for the smallest club in a big league is quite an achievement.
     
  8. Frosty

    Frosty You'll Never Walk Alone

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    Wasn't their a rumour doing the rounds that Agger is on the list of sales? I read it somewhere but can't remember where, not a deal i agree with and hope it's not true. He's a good defender barron the injuries that interupted his playing time.

    Adam will fit into our club no matter what anybody says. I believe he will be a good assett.
     
  9. When in Rome

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    We'll see what happens with Adam, when he's not the king of the side and doesn't get as much possession or opportunity to score (guessing he won't take penalties) I'm not convinced he'll be on the pitch nearly as much as well, so he'll do well to have the same impact as a less regular starter. But we'll see how it works out, a few duff games and he may well be out of the equation a bit like Keane was.

    re Agger. I wouldn't be surprised if the club sold, we can't afford to have players who are on paper great but don't play enough and have sale value we could 'realise'. I see Woodgate has gone to Stoke, spudz perhaps realising how little worth there is in a CB who's never fit - although Stoke don't seem so bothered, I guess they'll do anything to get a "quality player" even if they play on crutches :rolleyes
     
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    Delighted for him, his transformation in the last 2 years has been incredible.

    When he broke into the Rangers team he was brilliant under both PLG and Walter in the 06/07 season. Really tipped him for success.

    07/08 and 08/09 were poor though. Although he done well in the Champions League, personally thought he had a great game against Barcelona at Ibrox. When he was here we had so many CM's. Davis, Mendes, Ferguson, Thomson... could go on forever. He was shifted out to LM/LW and he had a number of poor games and was a whipping boy. Eventually left.

    But I always like seeing ex players doing well. I hope Adam can handle the pressure and devolop even more.
     
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    I was going to start a new thread asking people's opinions on him but thought I'd dredge up an old one instead.

    So, most were against him signing, is he on the way to proving people wrong? I think's improving most games and really growing into the red shirt, a really direct player who rarely goes missing and is regularly involved in the game. I thought he was building a really good relationship with Lucas and it's shame that has to be put on hold.

    He is a lot more of a box to box player than I thought he would be, something I can't recall Liverpool having since the days when Gerrard played central midfield (the comparison stops there though!).

    He's clearly not perfect though, my biggest faults with him are he sometimes picks the difficult option over the easy one, and his apparant best asset of set pieces haven't been up to his Blackpool standard, but overall I think so far he can be classed as a good signing.
     
  12. lfcarmy

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    I think he's done well so far, without being outstanding.
     
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    That's fair, I do think he's proved a few people wrong though
     
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    I was disappointed with his signing, i made that known but he has so far done better than i initially thought but i'd like to give him to the end of the season until i see whether i am proved wrong or not.

    Positives - Really good attitude and work ethic, good corners, good awareness, his short passing is quick and neat.

    Negatives - Inconsistent long passing (tries the Hollywood pass to much for me, which only sometimes comes off) and sometimes tries the spectacular when it isn't necessary and their is a better and easier option around the box.

    So overall its early days and he isn't as average as i first thought but i'd like to see more composure and intelligence from him.
     
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  15. King_Kenny

    King_Kenny JUSTICE FOR THE 97!

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    I think he's come on pretty good over the few months he's been here. Seems to have improved his work ethic immensely, that's the side of his game I was worried about. All in all I'd say a decent buy in the end.
     
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    Leivapool 22 time Champions of England

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    I'd say I think of him as a mix of KK's and Miss' posts. He's proving me wrong and I'm very glad of it.
     
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    Proved me wrong admittedly, he was shocking in the first few games and went missing in 2nd halves of games and when we needed goals he would just give the ball away loads. But he completely took a U-turn and now I think we would miss him if he was injured. Congratulations Charlie :)
     
  18. Boden

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    I like Charlie Adam and his obvious technical ability is there for all to see. Tackling still seems a bit of a mystery to him and he looks like a Scholes-esque player where he is obviously very good but also a complete liability and potentially a daft sending off waiting to happen. Charlie alongside Lucas was really starting to work and they complimented each other perfectly. Unfortunately, we won't be able to see that until next season now but it may prove worthwhile to Charlie as the parts of his game he could afford to fall short on because of Lucas will have to improve without him.
     
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    Leivapool 22 time Champions of England

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    He was proving me wrong but never finished it. Hate to say I told you so, alright.
     
  20. King_Kenny

    King_Kenny JUSTICE FOR THE 97!

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    Aye, although he was doing ok until around mid december when Lucas got injured and nothing was added to the thread since then...it all went badly downhill after that.
     

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