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FA Cup 23-24.

Discussion in 'Domestic Cups' started by Super_horns, Oct 15, 2023.

  1. Swirly Steve

    Swirly Steve Registered User

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    He does have a point himself though. Does a bit of distraction really lead to a professional footballer whacking the ball at least 5 foot over the bar?
     
  2. Muller

    Muller I like using gifs

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    Haven't checked but already know Ten Bald is gonna claim that as a great performance
     
  3. Pagnell

    Pagnell MISERABLE C**T

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    Whether it puts the player off or not isn't the point though, is it? Do you not see that?
     
  4. Swirly Steve

    Swirly Steve Registered User

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    What I see is it should never have got that far. That was never a penalty in regular time. Arguing about anything beyond that shouldn't have happened anyway.
     
  5. Sunlight

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    So its another all manchester FA cup final.
     
  6. PorkchopExpress

    PorkchopExpress The Blackfish

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    What about keepers waving arms, moving on the line or wobbling knees? Are you against all that?
     
  7. Pagnell

    Pagnell MISERABLE C**T

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    Yes.

    Now, move onto the next predictable step.
     
  8. StretfordEnd

    StretfordEnd Fools can be kings
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    Totally disagree with you on this. The penalty taker can stutter his run, do a hop, skip and a jump, perform a triple toe loop with axle, take a run up, not take a run up etc. etc. etc. The 'keeper is already rooted to his line by the Laws, if he wants to act up a bit to put off the taker then c'est la guerre. Barthez used to do it, Grobellaar used to do it, it's fair enough in my book.
     
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  9. Pagnell

    Pagnell MISERABLE C**T

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    We disagree then. I think there is a difference between a stuttering run up in an attempt to make the penalty more difficult to predict (and having the opposite effect half the time) to the keeper deliberately standing near the spot and holding onto the ball and needing to be told to return to the line by the ref.
     
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    Only when it doesnt fit his narrative.
     
  11. Kirby

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    Fair play.
     
  12. UnitedRoad

    UnitedRoad 32 Years : F*** All

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    Toxic in there, red on red all over the place :D

    shattered, off for a lie down.see everyone frothing about the offside, rules are rules.
     
  13. LUFCAndy

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    Never understand why they chose the exact frame in VAR where the player isn't even kicking the ball. Hopefully with this new fancy offside automation thing these things will be instant, like they are with goals over the line.

    Still don't think those handballs are penalties, know they are given more often than not, but they just aren't, there is literally nothing else the defender can do.
     
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  14. Red Tide

    Red Tide Concilio et Labore

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    I feel sorry for Coventry, they should have been heading to Wembley for the final against City.

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  15. UnitedRoad

    UnitedRoad 32 Years : F*** All

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    Why? It’s offside - they are using a crap technology which has been routinely showed to be rubbish - but that’s the way it goes.

    Thought experiment - if that was the other way round would anyone give a shit? If United got that penalty (when Chelsea didn’t get one exactly the same) instead of Coventry - I wonder what the reaction would be.

    didn’t get robbed of anything - I’d be gutted if I was them but this media hysterics is fantastic. Flip the script and not a word would be said - you all know it
     
  16. Tomohawk

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    The whole line thing for offsides is just ridiculous. By all means check it but just use eyes to make an educated judgement. If they just use a human to judge that Coventry goal and they give it, not one person would question it. In every angle it looked onside to the naked eye!

    As for handballs, any defender moving their arm towards the ball is asking for trouble and the reality is, in doing that, it is handball. However, the key issue with handball decisions is the vicinity the attacking player is to the defender. It feels like all you have to do is be a yard from a defender and kick the ball at their arm and you're in with a a chance of a penalty!

    No, because if you flip the script, VAR would give the goal and because it looks level nobody would question it :laugh:
     
  17. UnitedRoad

    UnitedRoad 32 Years : F*** All

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    The teams, I thought that was obvious
     
  18. TheDarkKnight

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    looked as sky blues were celebrating a winner as if he were fearing his P45

    unusually do agree with the ITV team, (offside) did look so tight I'd have let the goal stand, although I did wonder if he was offside at the time but thought maybe I'd not picked up on time of pass and where he was when it was played through as ITV didn't seem to say much at the time and commentary teams are usually very vocal

    they were very lucky, I was of mixed emotions, was happy for Coventry to win as that is one in the face of the mancs BUT would have given citeh an easy final win more than likely so when it got chalked off and mancs scraped through on pens at least might test citeh in the final

    I did initially wonder if he was onside, was a lot closer than I thought then it might be but since ITV were not shouting about offside until after celebrations I guessed I'd just misjudged the time of the ball being played

    (and I'm not "I knew it was offside", it was so close that would have taken some "knowing" but given the key positions are when the ball is played wasn't cut and dried.)

    Personally I would revise the laws on handball and offside to make them much clearer, for the latter if it isn't obviously offside and gaining clear advantage then call it onside

    the wording in the law mentions "any part of head, body or feet" but it also states, contrary to some offsides given by VAR....

    "The hands and arms of all players, including the goalkeepers, are not considered"

    Law 11 - Offside (thefa.com)
     
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  19. Jimmy Skitz

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    watching it at the time I thought he was a mile offside, obviously very close but people complaining are just upset as they thought they had something to mock United about
     
  20. Tomohawk

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    This is the key thing to come from this. The offside law was never designed to be forensically checked to the very finest of millimetres and 30 yards from goal, it was designed to stop attackers goal hanging basically. Go back to it being offside if there is a clear gap between attacker and defender

    Come on, we all deserve a bit of happiness now and again so only right to be disappointed at missing out on this :D
     

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