Can we just ban @Hull lad from the forum? He's a proven liar and terrible troll and contributes nothing to this place at all.
I don't think he was even a starter for Spurs back then. He certainly didn't go to that World Cup. Kane is marked so heavily that he has to come deeper and win possession and hold up play, which he does very well. Often winning crucial fouls. He fluffed his lines a few times yesterday but it's hardly as dramatic as you're making out here. Jesus.
I'm not really engaging my brain properly tbf, i've got the hangover from hell. I've always had the mentality though that England careers are ultimately judged by the knockout stages of international tournaments. There's always exceptions (Scotland and Holland at Euro 96) but we were always going to get out of that group barring a real disaster. Kane bailed us out against Tunisia though in fairness. Panama was just a shocking team. I wouldn't say he's done it on the big stage because he's banged goals in against Tunisia and Panama. As you say he put a good shift in against Colombia but quarter finals and semi finals he's been lacking. I was being harsh because I didn't realise it was only his second tournament. I think I got mixed up with a very quiet under 21 Euro tournament he had. As I said he's young enough to make the difference at a future Euros or World Cup.
Understandable. Can't disagree too much regarding the QF and SF, although at least he got in positions to score. I just think its very unfair to compare him to Rooney who scored 1? goal in 3 WCs when Kane has scored 6 in his first world cup and is going to win the Golden Boot. Even if you take away his 3 very well taken penalties and his lucky backheel goal then he's still beaten Rooney!
Slating Kane is ridiculous. Could of he done better? Yes. Could of also done a lot worse. I dont think we have any other striker that would of got 6 goals tbh, regardless of how they came about.
4 penaltys err they would If John Stones ( yes John Stones ) took pens chances are he'd be on 6 aswell
Get the **** you loon, he was one of our better outfield players in the comp. Against Croatia he was left to deal with a class midfield on his own as Alli and Lingard bombed forward too often and Kane dropped deep but didn't really aid in anyway. Plus the fact he was a late fitness doubt. Our tactics last night were poor given Croatia's main strength is in central midfield...we should have packed the midfield, we didnt and they played right through us. We should have dropped one of Alli, Sterling or Lingard last night and bought another central midfielder in. That's the one huge criticism of Southgate in this comp. Why the hell was Kane so far back most of the game? How we should have played and how those players should be set up is obvious. Kane up top, stays up top, don't drop back unless we are being badly overrun. Sterling floating in behind him, using the channels too. Lingard and Alli drop a bit deeper into midfield when we don't have the ball, when we do push forward. The four of them seemed to be under instructions to do the total opposite, it was choatic at times
But who was there to bring in? Dier? Loftus-Cheek? I'd have played Loftus-Cheek instead of the out of form Alli, and told Kane to play the no.9 position rather than drop back behind Sterling. But it was obvious from the start that even Pickford had been told to hoof the ball long to Sterling at every opportunity. I wouldn't have minded such a tactic but in the 2nd half it became completely ineffective yet Southgate persisted with it, swapping Sterling for the equally misfiring Rashford.
Delph maybe? We simply needed another midfielder in there. We had four very attack minded players in Kane, Sterling, Alli and Lingard. That was overkill against a Croatia side who have a cracking midfield. I maybe biased, but I felt sorry for Henderson last night, feel he was letdown, he was left to play against 2/3 middies for most of the game, two of those Modric and Rakitic who have been two of the best players in the tournament. The Kane dropping deep thing was bizarre though, almost as bizarre as Hodgson putting him on corners
I understand what Southgate was thinking when he told Kane to drop deep: he probably wanted Alli to run beyond him and one of our midfielders or centre-backs to attempt a long pass to him. It didn't work though and Kane ended up dropping far, far too deep. He was a defensive midfielder at one point during ET
I wish Southgate went to United or USMNT Full class guy liked him as a steady player too . And he can dress Captain America
