League Reconstruction !

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Was the 1975 Scottish League format change from 18, 20 too 10, 14,14 a good or bad idea?

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  1. Lisbon 67

    Lisbon 67 Registered User

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    Clubs have always voted out of self interest, every club and that includes the smaller clubs.

    Cash is King and that will never change. It's wrong but it's the reality.
     
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    SJFC Craig Punk Ass Honkey

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    The SFA ignoring the rules? Never seen that one before...

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    Two leagues of 16 at most.

    Make the rest of the leagues regional.

    Too many teams that offer nothing to a pro set up and would probably flourish better in a junior one.
     
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    True but the fans want only to play each club in the same division once at home and once way but then clubs say 30 games in the league each season is not enough.

    the only number which get around this problem is 18 team league (34 games per club per each edition of the league/division).
     
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    All rules except the ten commandments are made by humans pretending to be GOD and thinking they are more important than everybody else [when they are not].
     
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    A large league gives us long-termism and small leagues give short-termism.

    Short-termism because of the smaller sized leagues of 10 with 1/2 relegated is what has lead to the standard of Scottish football to decline form the high[er] standard it was in the 1970's to the present day.


    Long-termism is the ingredient that makes Scottish football better, high[er] quality, for example youth development and that takes time to bear the so called fruit.


     
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    In both 1955 and 1986 Motherwell escaped relegation thanks to league reconstruction.
    1. The 1954/55 campaign saw the ‘Well finish second bottom in the old ‘A’ Division.
    2. The 1985/86 season had a similar bearing but thankfully escaped the dreaded drop.
    3. 2003, Motherwell finished last. Division One champions Falkirk’s Brockville Stadium didn’t meet SPL stadia requirements and they were denied promotion.
    three times Motherwell are saved from relegation becuase of off the field events rather than through merit on the pitch.
     
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    Scottish football need jazzed up like the American's do with the NFL.

    Scottish football can be as dull as dishwater and it need not be.

    Half time show during the Scottish Cup final would be a start.

    Jazzing up Scottish football is affordable and would not cost that much to do and make a big difference to Scottish Football.
     
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    Too many of the clubs are dead wood who only exist with little ambition other than to exist.

    The 1975 league reconstruction replaced long termism with short termism in Scottish football and with shorten-ism comes short term results.

    the tendency to focus attention on short-term gains, often at the expense of long-term success or stability.

    For places like Scotland to compete against the big 4 leagues in modern football they need to follow the Ajax Amsterdam model of developing quality players from within but too few clubs are willing to take the usually 20 years time that requires to do this because of the short-term attitude in Scottish Football these days.
     
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    it's stability stupid!

    Too many clubs do not know what division they will be playing in the following season so find it harder to long term plan under the current league set-up.

    At minimum of 10 teams (some times a maximum of 13 team) out of 42 team (23%) each season change division in the 12-10-10-10 SPFL model; compared to 4 out of 38 teams (10.5%) under the 18-20 model pre 1975 reorganisation so under the pre-1975 model more stability = [more] long term planning and more long term success.

    That is why Scottish football declined from the high(er) 1970's standard to the low(er) 2020's standard.
     
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    The current set up is probably the best that Scotland can do and makes every league competitive. Most teams have something to play for and thus attract bigger crowds. If you make the leagues bigger it will end up with loads of meaningless mid table games and the crowds will drop. Realistically we should only have 2 senior leagues of 12 (maximum) and the rest can go to the juniors.
     
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    Most people agree on 2 divisions (albeit with different number of teams in them) so why we don't have two divisions is beyond me?

    Two divisions of 16 [30 games per club] is the most popular model/format amongst fans!
     
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    knowing of the price of everything the value of nothing! Maggie Thatcher would be proud of that.
     
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    perhaps the franchise model is the way to go.

    Meadowbank to Livingston in 1995.

    Time to take away from clubs the right to decide the league format as they only vote in self-interest and seldom if at all in the interest of Scottish Football!

    The SFA seems to favour two “senior” leagues of 16.
     
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    18 team s are my sum in the Scottish football league.
     
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    I think 14 in the top division would work

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  18. Lisbon 67

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    Happy with the top league of 12 being kept as i think its the best we have.

    Have no sympathy for Hearts going down after the way Budge has acted and hopefully they lose their legal action for compensation.
     
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