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Rafael Benitez

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bic, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. Bic

    Bic Registered User

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    The rent boys are going to get rid of him at the end of the season,someone is going to get one of the best managers in the world & they will treat him with the respect he deserves & he will stay there.

    Our "current owners" cos thats all they are, refused to even consider him. That was a disgrace,the man loves Liverpool FC & so do a large proportion of our support love him & they will see that when we play chelsea , Rafa's name will be sung louder than Rodgers has ever.

    But the Yanks will completely ignore that just like they did a year ago when they wouldn't speak to Rafa.

    Lots of youse will be ohhhh here we go all that Rafa stuff again,but he will be available this summer,he is the right man for the job,that doesn't mean im saying Rodgers out. But things are RAPIDLY declining, Suarez will leave next summer if we don't make CL footy,we can only live on our history for so long,the big players wont come under Rodgers if where not in the CL. A five year plan will be the end of us ......

    Rafa could be the biggest signing we make this summer,he continually proves himself in football, he hasn't anything to prove to me ive seen it...

    Can we afford to ignore a man who wants to be a part of Liverpool FC ?

    Somebody is going to snap him up,WHY NOT US
     
  2. Lord Celery

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    You're f*cking nuts mate. Benitez has had his day. Rodgers is doing a good job - give him some time for god's sake.
     
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    Rafa gone down in my estimation with recent comments about being LFC manager again. Rogers gone up in my estimations with the way he handled those comments.
     
  4. Bic

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    Say's a chelsea fan who's teams are in two semi finals
     
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    Erm, yes it does? Both can't manage us at the same time, can they? If you want Rafa in then you want Rodgers out.

    Because we already have a manager? Where have we gotten chopping and changing every season?

    Our fans are too quick to call for the managers head. We used to pride ourselves on being supportive of the manager.

    Rodgers is young, has his flaws and is a bit naive sometimes but I'm confident he's top class manager in the making.
     
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    To be fair apparently he actually meant returning to the city.. As his family are still here and it's where he lives. I did doubt that he would be so disrespectful to Rodgers as to say he'd be coming back for sure.
     
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    Rafa Benitez, will win chelsea the Europa League, but in return screw them over for failing to get in the champions league. You know why because of the welcome he got.

    Quality manager!.
     
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    Benitez is far from being one of the best manager's in the world. We've scraped through the Europa League past teams we really should be easily beating because of his stupid rotational policies, and aside from United we've made a meal of plenty of games in the FA Cup; not to mention embarrassing and demoralising defeats to QPR etc in the league. When he took over we were 4 points behind Utd, we're now almost 20 and that's without any major injuries to our players.

    He said he'd get the backing from fans if he got the right results. I won't deny he's had his good moments but he's thrown away the chance for silverware far too often, most notably the Club World Cup.

    He was good at Liverpool in the time he was there up until the last season; but he was hasn't been a world class manager since 2007. He only bloody won two trophies with Liverpool, but he's hailed as some kind of messiah.
     
  9. Machida

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    Yet you've still go two good chances of silverware?

    An utterly pointless statistic, the season was about 10 games old. Weren't WBA occupying a champions league spot at that time? Let's not forget the fact that you failed to finish in the top 4 last year.

    Funny, when he won that with Inter it was seen as nothing trophy and inconsequential. Now he's failed to win it, it's suddenly become important again?
     
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    Oh give over, by the end of October we were top under RDM, even after the atrocious refereeing performance of Clattenburg. Benitez took over about 15 games into the season and picked up two points from the first nine available, got Torres scoring in an incredible two games in a row against Sunderland the mighty Monterrey. In truth the CWC is a pretty inconsequential trophy, but nevertheless it't the chance to win a trophy that a club rarely gets, and he screwed it up by underestimating the oppposition.
    And he's pretty much won half the games that he's managed. He doesn't have the players against him, so the supporters shouldn't be an issue.

    The league position where we finished last season is irrelevant given we won the FA Cup and Champions League; we were beating teams like Napoli, Benfica, Barca and Bayern last year; this year we couldn't even beat flipping Steaua Bucharest and scraped a 1-0 win over Sparta Prague. The only notable exception from last season to this is Drogba; and even if you took away the goals he scored in the CL last year we'd still have made the final.

    I'm not going to blame Rafa for exiting the CL because that wasn't his fault. But we've had an easy run in the EL and made a meal of it.

    It's comparable to sacking Benitez the season after you won the champions league and bringing in a manager of a club that used to be your rivals, but fell away.
     
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    Di Matteo had you going out of the CL at the group stage, embarrassingly the first holders to do so and also had you on a run of 4 games without a win. Under Di Matteo I've no doubt you would not have been challenging for the title.

    The thrashing in the Super Cup has been said to have angered Abramovich and after that I've no doubt Di Matteo was in a very precarious position. Hence why he was so quickly disposed of.
     
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    Abramovich never liked Di Matteo even after he won the CL. Hence why it took him two weeks to offer him a contract and sacked him after we lost two games out of about 8 or 9.

    Besides, I don't know what the big fuss at going out of the CL at the Group stages is all about. At the end of the day we went out by one goal-because the rules were changed to head to head as opposed to goal difference; and we've won a European Cup; something not even 1% of clubs on the planet have done. I'm not going to deny I'd rather be in the CL than the Europa League, but at least we're in a European competition unlike City; and have the chance to hold both European trophies at the same time (albeit for a week), something I don't think any club has ever done.
     
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    Im starting a debate, seeing what people think.......

    Chopping & changing ..... We should never have sacked Rafa or Kenny IMO .... But when you have idiots in charge who don't know the first thing about Football these things happen, hence the appointment of Woy Hodgson...

    The way the club is going on & off the pitch is very worrying indeed,what worries me is this 5 year plan that Rodgers has cos if it doesn't work well I don't even want to contemplate where that will leave us.

    So if José Mourinho wanted to come to us in the summer would you swap him for Rodgers ?
     
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    FSG weren't even at the club or near to purchasing it when Hodgson was appointed mate.
     
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    You think I dont know that......... FFS

    The clowns form America are the ones who have done all the "chopping & changing",wether they are the cancer twins or these ******s who "currently" own us, the gobshites who thought it wasnt worth five minutes ot their time to speak to Rafa & made the legend who is Kenny Dalglish fly to the other side of the world to sack him after he had won us a trophy & got us to a cup final.....
     
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    To be fair your post suggested you didn't.
     
  17. Dan

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    Liverpool has changed quite abit since Rodgers took over, you guys play decent football and Suarez is flourishing.

    He also makes exciting signings, Sturridge + Coutinho - one of the best young footballers around. Stick with him and Liverpool will join the 'break into top 4' group. Benitez is a decent manager but the best move is to stick with Brendan.
     
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    I dunno about this one? I remember Rafa's last season with us as being terrible with us "bombing" both in the Chamions League against some really poor teams & again in the League _ a cold afternoon just before Christmas at Portsmouth sticks in the gullet. Coupled with a snowy exit against a Reading in the cup that provided a new deffinition to inept.

    Rafa may well use the excuse that he was battling with the owners as well, but in the end he too had thrown his hand in & wanted away. The man was given a chance & he gave us some fantastic times along with a few trinkets but lets not go backwards. The man is & always will be a hero to most of us, like Kenny & it would be wrong to give him another chance to sully his reputation.
     
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    BIC... Its not the owners who choose the interviews for the managers job, they have very little experience of English football its Ayres... while Ayres remains at Anfield I doubt we will ever see Rafa return.
     
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    The fact is getting rid of another manager now would only hurt the club.

    We've got a young, passionate, exciting manager in now who I'm confident will bring us success in the future. Why would we let him go?

    And we're not "rapidly declining," do you remember where we were a couple of years ago?
     

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