'Rangers' NewCo to play in Scottish First Division?

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  1. AB2002

    AB2002 That guy from that thing

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    I only hope that the SFL clubs get the oppotunity to vote on whether to admit them into Division 1. Unfortunately I feel that they'll only get the chance to vote them into the SFL as a whole. If it's a "yes", they'll be parachuted into Division 1. If it's a "no", the SPL2 will be set up with immediately effect. Either way sport is the loser.

    A huge pat on the back to the other Scottish clubs for now at least. So far, it has to be said, the turkeys have voted for Christmas.
     
  2. pvm66

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    There is no need to worry about small clubs being blackmailed by a new club if thats what you mean. The authorities are corrupt enough to cheat on their behalf. They are meant to be taking the vote away from the clubs now and doing it through their board. Probably because they know the feeling of the clubs and their fans. Not only do they want them in the first division, they also want to make sure that they get promoted as well which begs the question. Why bother playing the first division at all?
     
  3. McKerry

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    Then why is the Newco, required to apply to the SFA/SFL as a new club then?:therethere
     
  4. delr

    delr Former Bluenose

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    All newly formed companies are required to if the previous one gets liquidated.
     
  5. McKerry

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    Then why aren't the old RFC carried over and why the required name change of the team, if it is solely a company issue?:thumb
     
  6. Lisbon 67

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    100% spot on.

    The game up here has been corrupted by the old Rangers and is now being corrupted by the people who run our game.
     
  7. AB2002

    AB2002 That guy from that thing

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    I'll admit, when I first heard this viewpoint from Celtic fans I thought it reeked of paranoia. Looking over the evidence of this whole Rangers situation though, it's difficult to argue.

    I'm neither pro- nor anti- either side of the Old Firm. (I'm English, I support Leeds United, I've never even been to either Glasgow or Ireland in my life.) I simply think it's shite that what is effectively a new team is given such preferential treatment from the governing bodies when the decision should have been made months ago that they'll be treated in the same way as any other new team. The English FA f*cked it up eight years by allowing MK Dons to take the old Wimbledon's place in the English Football League. I would have hoped the Scottish FA had taken note of that situation to avoid making the same mistakes...seems they haven't. Following this with interest.
     
  8. McKerry

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    Exactly, a brand new team!:thumb
     
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    There are two rules that are set in stone.

    Any new club entering Scottish football must have three years audited accounts to gain membership. The newco do not have this.

    Whe the SFA were asked about that today they said it was a transfer of membership and not a new application. . . . . . The old Rangers membership is void because they also did not have audited accounts last year. So whatever way the SFA try to spin it neither the newco or the oldco fit the criteria laid out in the SFA's rules to gain SFA membership.

    The second rule in the SFA rulebook is simple. . . .Any newco must start in the bottom division.

    Both these rules are about to be thrown out in order to parachute a newco straight into Division one.

    Corrupt to the core.
     
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    That is an understandable attitude to take at first glance. What you (general) have to realise though is the way that things have worked in Scotland for years. The SFA is and has been for years rife with Rangers employees past and present. It is full of Rangers "minded" people. In fact their president now was involved in the EBT issue and yet still he is still there. He must have known about extra payments and side letters for staff who received them which is against the rules, yet nothing was done for years.

    The ex chairman (Gordon Smith) worked for Rangers before and after his SFA involvement and has done nothing but back the dead club and constantly spin garbage in their favour.

    The players union chairman is an ex Rangers player and his negotiating of reduced wages was totally against the interest of the players and all about helping keep the club afloat. Which is as far removed from his job as it gets.

    The press (who have since admitted this) is full of Rangers people who will write anything to make them look good and hold stories which tell the truth. There is even a video on YT where two of the more prominent "journalists" have an arguement live on air about who is the biggest Rangers apologist. Even though the vast majority of people want them (at best) in the lowest division, you dont often get to hear this unless it comes from the clubs who are saying its own websites.

    The "new" media has been to only constant and correct source of information in this whole debacle and if any justice is done then most of the old hands will die off (figuratively) with their club.
     
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    No I'm not conning myself dude. Now 11 Rangers players have declared they will not play in 'Newco' (as you like to call it). Why? Because they are greedy and overpaid like most topflight players these days (see, money does run football).

    Reading your posts you are obviously rubbing your hands with glee at the 'death' of Rangers, but are you really looking forward to winning the title by Xmas (every year)?

    What of the other SPL teams? Do you not think they will be tempted to spend money they haven't got so they can become the new Gers? Do you not think there is a fair chance of another SPL team going the same way as Rangers?

    I do not deny if Gers end up playing in Div 3 it will be hard, but they have the fan base, the youth academy and the resources to one day return.

    Personally I believe something has to be done (from a legislative point of view) to return football to how it was before the megabux men took it over.

    Watch this space it could be YOUR team going up the creek one day. Any true football fan would be disgusted by what money has done to the game, well at least those whose IQ surpasses 75:p Just look how 5hite England were at the last world cup, with players whose combined salaries would probably surpass the total GDP of a small country.
     
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    Gers won lots of titles many years before money ruined the game.
     
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    Greed being the operative word it ruins everything it touches!
     
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  18. Celtic Symphony

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    Spot on, bought over by a new company that will start trading in 2012, all history bought (not earned) is irreverent.

    Maybe Celtic should go and buy some of the old Rangers history too, will give us a higher title count.
     
  19. AJB

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    But you can't say that the new Rangers won't hold the same history as the original Rangers Football Club.

    Because that's what's been agreed. :no:
     
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    They will because it gives them some sort of power.
     

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