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Southgate. Who wants him to stay for Euro 24?

Discussion in 'International Football' started by Pagnell, Dec 11, 2022.

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Should Southgate stay?

  1. Yes, until after the Euros

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  2. No, he's had his chance

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  1. Pagnell

    Pagnell MISERABLE C**T

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    His contract is through to Euro 24 so this is pointless anyway, he's exactly the type of manager the FA want so they will never get rid. Boring, no controversy and he says all the right things.

    However, I think we should be doing better with the players we now have. He did well with the final last year, but I've always been of the view it was despite of rather than because of, and that impression didn't change this World Cup. He's got questionable tactical skills and his Plan B when things aren't going to plan is also up for debate.

    Who to bring in though? Another reason he's going nowhere unfortunately.

    Bottom line for me, without a massive slice of luck (far more than normally required), we won't win a WC or Euro with him at the helm, and for the first time I can remember, I think we have players good enough to do it. If managed well.
     
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  2. Muller

    Muller I like using gifs

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    Another wasted tournament with this group of players. Sigh.
     
  3. Dutch

    Dutch Registered User

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    Should have made this a poll Pags but anyway I want him to go. He's had more than long enough
     
  4. Norfolk Mariner

    Norfolk Mariner Registered User

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    Gareth Southgate reminds me a lot of my club's manager, Paul Hurst, in that they are both men whose work, far too often, is not appreciated by those who would claim to be supporters of the teams they lead anywhere near as much as it ought to be. As far as I'm concerned, Southgate's future should not be a matter of debate at all. If he wants to be there, he absolutely should be there at Euro 2024.
     
  5. Super_horns

    Super_horns WATFORD Till I Die
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    Who would realistically take over ?

    Some media and fans would demand an Englishman to start with .
     
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    Only two Englishmen would be realistic contenders if the job becomes vacant - Graham Potter and Eddie Howe - and the FA would need a lot of money to prize them away from their current roles. Beyond them, I really don't know.
     
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  7. Pagnell

    Pagnell MISERABLE C**T

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    I can't seem to add a poll retrospectively, even on a full 'more options' edit, which is a bit annoying.
     
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    Muller I like using gifs

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    If he wasn't English he would have been hounded out by now I have zero doubts.
     
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    Those who were close to Bobby Robson or Graham Taylor might disagree.
     
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  10. stephen jenkins

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    I believe a change of manager will have the same result, but its what we do, we'll change the manager and have this same discussion in 4 years.
     
  11. Suffolk Punch

    Suffolk Punch These are the days

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    Not for me thanks. Tactical decisions cost us in 2018 and the final in 21. I have no doubts that if we had swapped managers with the other team on both occasions we would have won.

    Time for a change and some new ideas.
     
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    I like Southgate and hope we stick with him

    But, even if not, who the hell will we get in?
     
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    He deserves one last tournament if he wants it for what he's achieved
     
  14. Muller

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    He has literally achieved nothing :laugh: when did losing become an achievement?
     
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    We have one only won one thing ever, we are a nation that doesn't win major tournaments and Southgate has got us the closest since the only man who did.
     
  16. Muller

    Muller I like using gifs

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    Ok but still hasn't achieved anything apart from getting the players to like him and failing when it mattered.
     
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    His work behind the scenes and the infrastructure he has put in place is worth nothing?
     
  18. stephen jenkins

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    No question we've progressed under Southgate and he's built a togetherness in the squad i can't remember seeing before. Not sure what we'd gain from changing the manager.
     
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    Do you honestly think he's tactically good enough to win us a trophy?
     
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    I think a pertinent question would be to ask what you base this purported solid infrastructure on ? I mean purely from an outside looking in perspective it looks to me that he's unwilling to play any player who doesn't conform to his mindset ,it's either that or he has no idea how to integrate the more inventive of the players available to him and his preference is to familiarity,rather than integrate some of England's brightest young talents into the squad and more to the point undermining to the point of being dismissive the form they are in ?
     
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