So you're saying we should just lay down and comply to whatever Trump wants to do? I will need you to define what you mean by 'rebel.' It's not as if these protesters are planning some sort of grand scheme to overthrow the government, as opposed to mobilizing to send a message of resistance to what Trump stands for ideologically. My real concern is that these same people protesting better be out in the polls voting come 2018 if they want to make sure their ideals are represented and truly defended by the legislature. I would argue that we are in a significantly better position upon Obama leaving office than we were under GW Bush. While the 'hope' was for Obama to wave a magic wand and save the world, I'd take what improvement we had under his administration than staying in the Bush years. The hope now is that Trump somehow continues this progress, and maybe even accelerate it. I do not wish failure upon Trump. I would love it if he becomes the greatest president to grace this country because that means my life would improve as well. However, with the policies and people he has planned, I find that it is my responsibility as a citizen to make sure it is as difficult as possible for him to implement the policies I disagree with, and as easy as possible for him to implement the ones I do. It's literally what has been happening in the very obstructive legislature with Obama .
Nobody is protesting about what he's done, as he hasn't done anything yet. They're protesting at the fact he's been elected. Get over it and get behind him, unless he's assassinated he isn't going anywhere. Same as the cry babies that voted for us to stay in the EU. Well we aren't, so stop crying over it.
You realize he's made cabinet appointments that are worth protesting based on their agenda, right? I'm personally not the one out on the streets, because I'm willing to give the guy a chance to perform, but at the same time, I'm not going to condemn anyone who wants to go out and protest as long as they go about it peacefully.
In the main, it's people protesting over the fact that he got in office. It's been happening since the day he won the election. America would do better just giving him a chance. If he ****s it up then fair enough but atm it's just a load of people crying over not getting what they wanted.
Sure, I'm on the same page on you on that, but again, they have every right to do what they are doing. I'm not picking up my placards and markers just yet.
I'm not saying they don't have the right but they still need to get over it. Much like the people in this country that wanted to stay in the so called 'common market'.
Consequence of imperialist globalist wars as well which spawned the likes of ISIS. Open borders was always going to have repercussions both in terms of terrorism and a nationalist backlash.
I think a degree of reaction should be expected because he's not like previous President's. It's not a run of the mill appointment that has spawned an unusual response from the public, it's a deeply polarising one based in large part on what the man himself has said and done. I wouldn't protest personally but a democracy isn't just voting and then that's it you have to shut up for 4 years. More attention is being drawn to the protests by people moaning about them than they actually merit.
As long as they don't start resorting to violence, I would just have to respectfully disagree. I would say this is their way of 'getting over it.' The real test, as I've said will be 2018. If these same protesters don't go out to vote for the candidates who support their agenda at the legislative level, then any sort of protesting they have done or plan to do will be in vain. I'm not as upset as much of the election of Trump, but rather, how many Republicans won/retained their seats in congress, the senate, or the governorship - those who have a more direct impact on voters' lives. Democrats clearly have the numbers when it comes to voting, but the Clinton votes have not been reflected down the ballot, as far as I can tell, which is a symptom of a much, much, larger problem that needs to be addressed more urgently than anything Trump can do in the next months.
And they'd have exactly the same right regardless of whether he had been elected by over 50% of the voters. It's your distinction between the two that confused me. A democratic election is a democratic election.
Yes, they do. There is no real distinction, and if that's how my articulation of my point came off, then that wasn't the intention. The point was that they already have traction to provide meaningful opposition because the numbers are there, especially considering Republican voters have successfully been able to do it with Obama with less.
But what's the point? My point is that doing this is going to change nothing. He's won and now he's been sworn in. Now is the time you need unity and that unfortunately for some means sucking it up and getting behind the president.
Well you don't really know that right now. If you think the protest's end goal is some sort of overthrow of Trump by this time next week, or that somehow the election was illegitimate, then that's just looking at it with a way too simplistic lens - that's the route that the birther protesters took in 2008, not this group. People have accepted that he will be president, but we do not have to accept the platforms that he has campaigned for, and once those hit the congress floor, you can bet your ass I will be relentlessly dialing my local officials to make sure those do not pass, and if I have to go out and join a protest to get the point across, then so be it. Just standing idly by and letting him just get this way is the least patriotic thing anyone can do.
Already reports that all mentions of climate change have been removed from the White House website and possible other government ones to follow. Now just to get on with removing any references to or any official recognition of fantasy non-binary 'genders' as well. The bonfire of social liberalism in US government and politics is long overdue. While the new administrations stance on climate change worries me, I hope this purging now extends to the rest of the liberal tripe we've had to suffer for the past eight years and gets under way as soon as possible.
I think it's reasonable to expect a degree of protesting, as far as election results go, it's quite run of the mill, if there's anything to criticise it's the hysterical doomsday scenario's that are totally unproductive and irritable. It's not what I would do but at least those that go out to protest are putting their money where the mouth is and doing it in a way that is accepted in a democracy.
Apparently he has 30 days for that. More to do on day 1! Here's everything Donald Trump has promised to do on his first day as president
