Likely to be a hot topic with fans, players and officials getting to grips with it! Seems tight offsides won't be given by assistants to allow VAR to come into usage . World Cup 2018: Assistant refs to keep flag down for tight offside calls Will we see the system be a success or exploited and causing mayhem ?
Well maybe these other officials will be more used to it or use the system better!? But I am sure we will get either teams demanding it to be used for everything that might be contentious or pundits/players disagreeing over a decision even after VAR.
Heard someone talking on the radio about the fact that there will be many officials there from countries who have never even used VAR. 3 minutes for every offside decision? It has shambles written all over it.
VAR is more useless than having those ponces standing behind the goal in European games and is far, far worse for the game especially for those in the ground. Bin the whole stupid concept.
I can't wait for the inevitable moment a decision is over turned at half time and a team loses a goal or a player before they come back out...
Also, how tight is tight? What if the bloke flags but then is overturned? If games start overrunning then it will be havoc with the tv feeds. Hopefully at least the blokes in the box will speak the same language as the ones on the field!
The problem with keeping the flags down is when do they actually decide to call it offside? When a goal scored is the obvious answer but what about if the attacking team was to keep possession down there for a good 5 minutes before eventually scoring, do they then go all the way back and that entire passage of play is a write off etc. I still stand by saying VAR is a good thing and will come good eventually but for now there's faaaar too many ifs, buts and maybes. Like DD said, there was a bundesliga game last season that had a penalty awarded at half time, things like that just destroy the integrity of the game and make it seem like they work it out as they go along
Fair pint and that is something that I'd ask - also as said by Realist what if the game goes on and on... First phase and all that.
I will reserve judgement on VAR until after this World Cup. They've had enough time to fine tune the system, so it's all or nothing now. It will never be 100% accurate, but if it helps the accuracy and there isn't too much timewasting, I'm al for it. Potentially...
I agree, if implemented correctly it has the potential to be a really good system. But 3 minutes being allowed to review a decision seems a little drastic, when surely not more than 20/30 seconds would be sufficient.
Either my understanding of VAR is completely wrong ... or ... it's implementation even at this early stage of the world cup is soooo wrong. France vs Australia, the Griezann penalty was given because the referee was interrupted by the VAR officials. clear Two clear decisions that should have been awarded but weren't : Argentina vs Iceland, Pavon was clearly fouled, yet penalty was not given, Fantastic for Iceland to get a Draw, but this penalty should have been given Brazil vs Switzerland, Zuber goal should have been disallowed, a clear an obvious push in the back this particular decision to not disallow the goal baffles me. again it was a great result for Switzerland but the goal should never have been allowed. Some would argue that Jesus's penalty attempt in the first half should also have been given. VAR was brought in to resolve issues like these once and for all and clearly and to bring some sort of consistency and fairness to the game. Yet if anything for me it's brought more problems than resolutions. In general I am a fan of VAR, but not if this is how it's operated.
Personally it has been much better than I feared. Those decisions you’re talking about are, for me, ones that need to be made on the spot, by the ref, without interference. You may have thought the Swiss goal shouldn’t have stood, fair enough, but the ref didn’t see a lot in it and made a judgment. It’s subjective, not black and white. Not blatantly screamingly obvious or a miscarriage of justice, just a subjective decision. Attackers and defenders nudge each other at every set-piece, that’s football. At the end of the day the ref decides whether it’s too much or not. Why then give another ref a chance to overrule that decision with what is no more than his own personal interpretation? Turns it into a farce imo. There is no ‘right’ answer, so the ref calls it as he sees it. Still hate VAR though
I'm afraid I have to disagree here, two hands on the back and a clear push. This was one *VERY* black and white decision to which the ref got it wrong and it's up to the VAR officials to tell the referee they think he got it wrong. Every channel I've watched all 100% concur it was a push. I agree if it's not 100% clear the ref's decision should stand, and Jesus's penalty claim I think does fall into that category.
Well the VAR guys are supposed to suggest the ref looks at something if they feel he has missed a foul etc like the Peru penalty but that Argentina one was confusing as it clearly showed Pavon was fouled . Maybe they didn't want to be accused of trying to help Argentina!! It hasn't caused the delays like VAR had here but maybe the refs have been better prepared?
Fair enough. For me there’s always going to be contact, pushes and shoves at every corner (especially) when players are competing against each other and if you were going to give a ‘true’ decision you’d have to analyse every incident between every player afterwards to decide who had done what to whom and when; it would take ages. You can’t possibly hope to make corners, for example, completely non-contact. At the end of the day I’d rather the ref makes a decision and, unless he’s missed something horrendously obvious, it should stand. Just about where you draw the line I suppose.
I'm less concerned about delays that could be caused by VAR, as so far that's not been an issue at all. But blatantly missing what are genuine fouls is really disappointing. Perhaps you are correct, in that they are deciding to favor the underdogs and not favor the likes of Argentina and Brazil, which is romantic but still not right.
