20 pages on a match which probably merits about 7-8, hm, wonder what all the manc fans and "neutrals" are in here talking about.................
Well I had a good birthday in the end, depsite this shite. Machida, hope you did too. I don't think there's any need for me to read through the reams upon reams of this. We got what we deserved. Clueless going forward, left Luis far too isolated after the first fifteen minutes and the midfield progressively dropped far too deep. I've defending Downing but he's been on a sharp downward slope into ineptitude since the end of November and doesn't seem likely to come out of it. Spearing was shocking, positionally incredibly naive, wasteful with the ball and a completely basic error for their 2nd. All in all a game I'd like to forget and move on from, if it would be allowed.
There is something that stinks in all this. How is it that the FA have not reprimanded Patrice Evra for abusing Luis Suarez' sister. He called her(and he admitted to the independent panel that he did this) a ''Sucada'' which I've translated from spanish to english using google translate, it means greaser which technically means ''dirty''. And this is Madrid spanish and not South American spanish.
If you're going to call SAF a hypocrite at least get the facts right, Keane didn't end Haalands career. :
It was a little joke Bic you moron, I was alluding to the story I told here before about a guy in a Crown Paints LFC shirt accidently pissing on my shoes...You of course get it wrong, take it out of context and write badly constructed sentences on the subject. Because all the LFC fans that agree with us, the media, the FA, United and Spurs fans on this thread are all "wrong" and you are right..of course. They have no interest in getting any facts right.
Happy Bday lads but unfortunatly a Liverpool win was too much to ask for Mine falls a few days after the champs league final Was nearly hospitalized after liverpools 2005 final's week long bender
According to Suarez he was the victim. What I read was he called him a black man - I don't think that is racist. If a black person called a white person a "white man" would they have got a ban? I don't think so.
I have left this alone for a while as you continue to post it but son you are completely wrong as usual. Evra said "Concha de tu hermana" which literally means "your sisters p*ssy/c*nt". It doesn't translate like that at all, it would be more like you and I saying "f*cking h*ll" or "son of a b*tch". To insult your sister you would say it quite differently FYI. Where you are pulling this Sucada from I have no clue. It isn't in the report. Maybe another scouser lying? Sort of United fans spitting on the Hillsbourgh memorial which was totally untrue just as this is.
Of course he didn't. FYI, Luis Suarez said ''Porque es Negro'' to Patrice Evra, and it translates as ''Why you black'' and NOT ''Because you're black''. This has been pointed out by an expert in South American Spanish. It has also been pointed out by Rohan Ricketts who has a Uruguayan wife and he himself is black and he himself due to knowing the uruguayan culture found it inoffensive.
Dude........................stop. You´ve just translated without even a verb in the sentence.... In Spanish and Portuguese the conjugations are change for each article, so you do not have to use usted or tu, or voce or voces - the conjugation itself indicates the form... As I said..........stop.
Rich St John. This is what Luis Suarez allegedly said in Spanish, as nobody apart from Luis Suarez or Patrice Evra know what was said. However it was deemed to be translated from Madrid Spanish to English which is translating it incorrectly, thus making the translation incorrect, therefore making it not making any sense. It should have been translated from South American Spanish into English. There is such a thing as there is Parisian French and Quebecan French, two completely different dialects. There is Lisbon Portugese and Mozambique Portugese again two completely different dialects. The expert in South American Spanish translated what Suarez allegedly said and he said it did not make any sense and questioned whether it was language that Luis Suarez would even use.
There indeed are regional and dialectic variations in many languages, especially European ones - for sure. The es in Spanish is not going to come under that umbrella though.
As I said that is ''allegedly'' what Luis Suarez was supposed to have said. The FA said that Luis Suarez was ''probably guilty''. If it had to have gone to court of law, Luis Suarez would have been acquitted as the evidence was circumstansial, it was Evras word against Suarez' and there was more holes in Evras statement than there is in a prostitutes fish net stocking. In law guilt has to be proven without reasonable doubt. There is massive reasonable doubt here. Saying Luis Suarez was probably guilty is like saying Rio Ferdinand was off his face on jamaican woodbines when he missed his drugs test. Luis Suarez was nothing more than a bit naive, he's no racist as Patrice Evra said in the same way Rio Ferdinand was gormless but in no way a junkie. Rio Ferdinand never deserved an 8 month ban, a month maybe for being gormless, Suarez deserved no more than a two match ban for naivity and certainly not an 8 match ban.
I wouldn't say so. Liverpool will allow it to settle down, but they will give Alex Ferguson some rope....eventually he will hang himself.Kenny Dalglish will be the one that kicks him off the chair.
