2024 Euro's Qualification Draw

Discussion in 'International Football' started by Taffy, Oct 8, 2022.

  1. LUFCAndy

    LUFCAndy Registered User

    Joined:
    May 5, 2016
    Messages:
    1,683
    Likes Received:
    601
    Location:
    Yorkshire
    Supports:
    Leeds
    Like all the home nations and Rep Ireland to do well/qualify. Thought you looked the better team in the first half, but as the game went on and into extra time Poland came back into it. Shame for James, not sure why he was selected to take a pen though, speaking with a Leeds hat on, i'd have more confidence in Ampadu scoring one than him.
     
    AFCB-Nutter, Super_horns and Jockney like this.
  2. Jockney

    Jockney Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2007
    Messages:
    8,895
    Likes Received:
    966
    Location:
    Walthamstow
    Supports:
    Millwall
    I always want the home nations and ROI to do well. That’s not to say that I don’t enjoy the banter when their fans give it out but fall flat on their faces heh heh.
     
    AFCB-Nutter and Super_horns like this.
  3. Riverside

    Riverside Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    5,215
    Likes Received:
    1,948
    Supports:
    Cardiff City
    Poland are a better team, but there just wasn’t the same spark as when we started with Brooks, Johnson and Wilson up-top against Finland. Played with a higher tempo then and had them flapping throughout the game on the counter. Not a criticism of Kieffer, but the dynamic changed.

    Seems Page’s hand was forced into a change as Brooksy not not well during the build-up.

    Poland didn’t manage a shot on target in 120 mins but were composed and solid and it was a pretty even game overall. One of those between evenly matched teams that could have gone either way and where there’s probably no need to look for somebody to blame.
     
    #1183 Riverside, Mar 27, 2024
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2024
  4. Kirby

    Kirby Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2001
    Messages:
    41,965
    Likes Received:
    13,378
    Location:
    Selhurst Park
    Supports:
    Crystal Palace
    I thought the decision to take off Brennan Johnson was odd. He looked decent and Wales barely threatened without him.

    Also, I know he wasn't fully fit but surely throwing Aaron Ramsay on for the final few minutes of extra time to have him on a penalty would've made sense?
     
    Vito Andolini likes this.
  5. stephen jenkins

    stephen jenkins Registered User

    Joined:
    May 5, 2022
    Messages:
    1,148
    Likes Received:
    411
    Location:
    leicester
    Supports:
    leicester city
    Felt for Wales last night, as an england fan i know that feeling all too well.

    Its dissapointing wales won't be there.

    As for England we've got zero chance of winning it...another 1/4 final defeat IMO.
     
  6. TheDarkKnight

    TheDarkKnight Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2024
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    26
    Location:
    cyberspace
    Supports:
    Liverpool

    Wales have done well in recent years, but teams like Poland have been at it a bit longer, qualified for 2012 (hosts), 2016, 2018, 2020, 2022 and have a fair strength so was never going to be easy.

    Always disappointing to go out by 1 goal or on penalties, so near but yet so far. I dislike intently the fact that sides in eg League B and League C get to play weaker opponents to reach a major tournament via the back door, straight draw would be fairer with no seeding

    Wales had to play Finland then Poland, Ukraine only had to play Bosnia and Iceland, Georgia only had to play LUXEMBOURG and Greece......
     
    Riverside likes this.
  7. Jockney

    Jockney Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2007
    Messages:
    8,895
    Likes Received:
    966
    Location:
    Walthamstow
    Supports:
    Millwall
    I think it's fine to prepare yourself mentally for disappointment, because lord know the national side are experts at falling short of expectations, but we've clearly got a reasonable chance of winning it and are joint faves with France for a reason
     
  8. stephen jenkins

    stephen jenkins Registered User

    Joined:
    May 5, 2022
    Messages:
    1,148
    Likes Received:
    411
    Location:
    leicester
    Supports:
    leicester city
    we're always favourites though, only last euros we came close but still couldnt do it against an average italy side at home, we aint winning it, not even close.

    Happy to be proven wrong though LOL
     
  9. Vito Andolini

    Vito Andolini Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2017
    Messages:
    4,058
    Likes Received:
    1,542
    Location:
    Scotland
    Supports:
    Celtic
    This deserved more respect :laugh:
     
  10. SirSkinner

    SirSkinner Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2019
    Messages:
    502
    Likes Received:
    263
    Location:
    London
    Supports:
    England
    Aren't you the one that was pretty much cheering every Aussie wicket during the last Ashes because you didn't want to be proven wrong?
     
  11. Super_horns

    Super_horns WATFORD Till I Die
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Messages:
    57,389
    Likes Received:
    6,386
    Supports:
    Watford
    @Taffy

    Happy with Page staying on?

    Anyone else you can think of who realistically could be better ?

    Rob Page to remain as Wales manager
     
  12. saint_clark

    saint_clark Up the Saints

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2008
    Messages:
    23,426
    Likes Received:
    2,513
    Supports:
    Southampton
    That's nonsense. It's only the last two tournaments we've been seriously among the favourites. 2018 backwards the last time we were favourites for anything was 2004.
     
    Super_horns likes this.
  13. Super_horns

    Super_horns WATFORD Till I Die
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Messages:
    57,389
    Likes Received:
    6,386
    Supports:
    Watford
  14. saint_clark

    saint_clark Up the Saints

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2008
    Messages:
    23,426
    Likes Received:
    2,513
    Supports:
    Southampton
    Super_horns likes this.
  15. stephen jenkins

    stephen jenkins Registered User

    Joined:
    May 5, 2022
    Messages:
    1,148
    Likes Received:
    411
    Location:
    leicester
    Supports:
    leicester city
    Not true, not only were we amongst the fav's in 2020 but in 2016 and 2012 we were amongst the fav's too.....always fail, just like we will again.
     
  16. Super_horns

    Super_horns WATFORD Till I Die
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Messages:
    57,389
    Likes Received:
    6,386
    Supports:
    Watford
    2012 with Hodgson just taking over would surprise me but then the bookies always have us up there.
     
  17. SirSkinner

    SirSkinner Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2019
    Messages:
    502
    Likes Received:
    263
    Location:
    London
    Supports:
    England
    The lowest pre-tournament odds you could get on England outright for Euro 2012 were 10/1 with an average of 12/1, thats behind 4 other nations including Germany 3/1, Holland 13/2, France 9/1 and heavy favourites Spain who were 11/4.

    Euro 2016 is more of a fair argument as its a more open market. France and Germany were joint favourites at a modest 4/1, Belgium 11/2, Spain 6/1, England 8/1, Croatia 9/1 & Portugal 10/1.

    Among the favourites is stretching it a bit
     
  18. TheDarkKnight

    TheDarkKnight Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2024
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    26
    Location:
    cyberspace
    Supports:
    Liverpool
    depends who the people having X as favourites are, media generally, British media, bookmakers (who are a business so not looking as much at probability as making sure they don't lose money), fans worldwide or England fans....

    bookies get stung from time to time, the Leicester title win with stupid odds a good example, another where some bookie assistant hadn't heard of an aussie quick (Hilfenhaus) so gave away good odds on being top wicket taker in an Ashes and cost them


    favourites for a tournament is subjective regardless whose view on them it is, not that I rate many pundits their view is at least impartial with regards monetary loss/gain - unless they happen to be a Toney
     
  19. SirSkinner

    SirSkinner Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2019
    Messages:
    502
    Likes Received:
    263
    Location:
    London
    Supports:
    England
    Favourites being determined by odds holds far more weight than what a pundit giving a prediction does. Eto'o said that Cameroon would win the last World Cup, that doesn't suddenly make them favourites does it
     
  20. A Gooner

    A Gooner Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2008
    Messages:
    44,172
    Likes Received:
    7,548
    Supports:
    Arsenal
    Wisdom of the crowd.

    Surprised to see we're favourites for the upcoming tournament. That's nothing against us, I just think France are better.
     

Share This Page