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Discussion in 'The Euros '21' started by Tornado, Jul 7, 2021.

  1. Del_Boy

    Del_Boy Registered User

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    Foden for Mount. Sancho for Saka.

    If he goes with the same starting 11 then congratulations Italy. They're too good an opposition for passengers.

    I'd also seriously consider Pickford's mental state and whether he can hack it.
     
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  2. RedDev

    RedDev Back from a long break.

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    I'm just thankful we're in the final. I'm a 88 kid which is younger than so many more who've never experienced a final but it's just joy crossed with dread. We're there.... we have a chance. We haven't fallen at the last hurdle.

    The positive signs are Italy did tire against Spain and we're a very fit, very well-drilled team. If we keep it safe early on which may feel sketchy I think the late game will come to us. Then in extra time, we could see the same result as tonight because we have such quality.

    Our bench and those players on the fringe are our secret weapon.
     
  3. Taffy

    Taffy C'mon you reds.

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    Failed miserably.

    Try better for the World Cup next year.
     
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    I am still watching the games Kirbs :)
     
  5. jonesy_29

    jonesy_29 JonesyBoy1991

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    Italy will win the final. They have players that have won big trophies before in that team. Mancini has also won big trophies and is twice the coach Southgate is. Experience counts for everything in games like this. 2-1 Italy. They have the know how, we are new to this kind of a situation in every way.
     
  6. Tornado

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    Why?

    Have I missed something?
     
  7. Swirly Steve

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    Utter pr*ck.. ban this guy please.
     
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    jonesy_29 JonesyBoy1991

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    For what? Being realistic?
     
  9. Muller

    Muller I like using gifs

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    Yeah ban him it's coming homeeee
     
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    For ruining the mood. It's the first final most England fans have ever seen. Realism doesn't come into it. It's coming home.
     
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    Definitely Sancho for Saka. Italy struggled with Spain's passing game and he gives us an extra playmaker.

    I don't think Foden for Mount though. Mount does cover defensively quite well and he works hard with Rice and Phillips but I think that position will be binned anyway to start with. TBH and it sounds crazy you could drop Kane against Italy for the first half of the game....

    Do the Spain approach and don't play a forward, have Grealish drop deep. Play a team to work them for 70 minutes, then switch and bring on the big guns because their old horses didn't like it.

    Honestly what ever Southgate goes with I support. He's given us a final at Wembley after a bad year...... regardless of the result it puts us into good stead for the World Cup as well.

    Pickford is scatty but he does pull a save out of the bag and I like a goalkeeper with character because they're the ones you remember.
     
  12. jonesy_29

    jonesy_29 JonesyBoy1991

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    No it really isn’t. Be realistic. We are playing against a side that have not lost for 2 years. I have money on Italy to win it I am that confident.

    Reaching a final is progress but expecting to beat Italy is too much. We struggled past Denmark and we are going to beat an Italy side with Bonnucci and Chiellini at the back are we? No chance.
     
  13. Swirly Steve

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    I can understand you thinking Italy might win, but to put a bet on them means you actually want them to win... what a c*nt.
     
  14. RedDev

    RedDev Back from a long break.

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    I had Italy to win before the tournament. But if we play like we can and TBH tonight we were favourites so we carried that pressure and when they started playing well I think we spiralled a bit but it took a freekick to be the only goal against us still.

    Italy haven't the depth we have and they looked tired against Spain. We just have to be brave and when the point comes put faith in Foden, Rashford, Sancho, Grealish etc to go win us the game... along with a bit of faith in Henderson to come on and use his experience potentially with Bellingham who will be a problem for that Italian midfield late on to really change things.

    We just have to weather that early storm.
     
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    England have players that have won big trophies too? :confused

    Thought that particularly showed in extra time tonight. The game management towards the end was fantastic and there was 2-3 minutes where we didn't give the ball away at all, a clear sign of a team who know how to get over the line.

    Italy may well win but I don't think it'll be because of a lack of big game experience on our part.
     
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    Of course. I can’t deal with the amount of English lads in my local area that would be acting like total d*ck heads justifying it as “just celebrating the win”. No thanks. I want an Italy win and a peaceful Sunday.

    It’s been a good tournament for England and it is progress getting to a final but we are second best to a side like Italy. Plus I would rather win my bet then see England win a major tournament. Money is more important let’s be honest here.
     
  17. Swirly Steve

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    Don't worry. We ain't losing. On Monday this will be a cele
    This guy here just admitted he is the worst member on the forum
     
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    jonesy_29 JonesyBoy1991

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    I am just being realistic here Steve. Something a lot of England fans seem to of lost after tonight’s win over “Denmark”.
     
  19. RedDev

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    What's football without a bit of dreaming?
     
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    Realism is one thing but you also said you don't want Englang to win because that will mean "the plebs" celebrating. You're a snob who doesn't care about Englang at all
     

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