they seem small. messi plays in front of 21000. I dunno though. I have not been back over there in a few years.
I think that tells you all you need to know about why football isn’t suddenly going to get insanely popular. Can’t throw shade at England for small stadiums and not consider how the MLS really struggles to fill any kind of stadium.
Completely different sports. How many fans go to American football games in the UK? From your argument, if we imported the NFL to the UK, we’d fill out lots of stadiums for that sport too. It’s just a very flawed argument.
There have been NFL games in the UK every year since 2007 at Wembley, Twickenham and (more recently) Tottenham. Going off the attendances in the Wikipedia article, the games seem to be pretty close to sell outs as well (bearing in mind that wembley and Twickenham have reduced capacity for NFL games for whatever reason).
thats not my arguement. they have a huge interest in thier no 1 sports theres just is not that much scope to make football huge there. it will always be second fiddle but it does have a growth market in the hispanic community to go to games. they have massvie football stadiums for NFL for good reason and small gorunds for mls for good reason. As i said the eye watering fees for coaching shows that its seem as a rich kids sport as well. My point is i just don't see the US market as being a massive growth one for football. I don't see the guys who are buying up english premier league clubs buying up MLS clubs as well. Maybe they are but i am seeing them think we are undervalued somehow and a licence to print money. As to your point here, Football is our no 1 sport. We have others but they are firmly in thier own slots. the point being we have imported american football into europe and it remains firmly a minority activity. Yes they are totally different sports but the point is about audience. Will the americans hosting prem games, buying the world cup and such grow that audience at the expsne of the current americna sports? I really don't see it. It'll be taking games off english fans, moving them to USA to have a really expensive "special event" that will of course sell out but the MLS won't grow.
I can't see anything being suggested above other than that the US would be able to fill out stadiums for premier league games. It's difficult for anyone to comment beyond that as there aren't any actual plans being suggested (just that the regulator would make it difficult to do it). However, the population of the US is ~5x larger than the UK. So as an example, if they revive the 39th fixture idea, playing those 10 games in the US would still be fewer games on a per capita basis than the 3-4 NFL games played over here. I'd say that makes it a reasonably fair comparison
Or you know build your own league up by regularly going to games there instead of latching onto clubs you have nothing to do with like leeches. Seriously there's plenty of MLS sides why don't they support them and leave us the f*ck alone?
The new US TV deal for broadcast rights to the MLS is worth $2.5 billion over 10 years, the new Premier League TV deal is worth $8.44 billion over 4 years, so it's $250 million/year for MLS and $2.1 billion/year for the Premier League. So any idea that we have to allow our League games to be played in N America to generate "eyewatering sums" is simply absurd. Apple and MLS: What the US$2.5bn deal tells us about soccer and streaming in the US and beyond - SportsPro The Premier League’s UK£6.7bn TV deal: The winners, what it means for Amazon and DAZN, and where English soccer goes from here - SportsPro Well let me explain what limited hours in a day have to do with it. Nobody, not even Americans, can be at two places at the same time, so if they're at a basketball/gridiron/baseball/ice hockey game they aren't going to be a football match, and since the Americans prefer those aforementioned sports it makes football a 5th choice.
That proves my point though, thats why the Americans want in on the action all the money it provides, the moneys there willing to be spent, thats why they pushed for an expanded world club championship, thats why so many have taken over English teams. You seem to think my comment about eye watering amounts is somehow connected to TV pay deals its not, its the owners and the businessess behind sport in the US, the money is limitless, they want a piece of the massive european soccer market to fill their coffers even more. But it goes beyong making money Americans are obsessed with becoming the biggest and best and that can only happen if they compete with europe. Again the idea theres not enough time in the day when they have a league thats grew for 30 years and get huge crowds for certain games and internationals proves demand is there. Just look at the demand when european teams play friendlies, imagine what it would be like if they competed in a league or cup. Keep belieiving americans dont care or there no money around, but I can tell you there is.
That's shifting by age, even though American Football & Basketball are the two clear most popular sports in the US, overall nowadays there's evidence that Football is more popular than Ice Hockey, and is more popular than Baseball among younger age groups. That's who they're trying to attract in, and it is growing. Also, MLS doesn't always conflict with the other sports schedules.
This upcoming 2024/25 season sees the last of the 3 year price freezes at Posh where it costs me £20 a match for a 10 game flexi ticket which I think is expensive but thankfully I'm not a Fulham fan who had an 18% price rise this season & or Forest where next season's lowest price rise in one area is 22.5% & for the next generation of kids 111% , that's f*cking shocking if true , football is slowly becoming a sport for the middle & not working classes to enjoy when you throw in travel , food & drinks etc... for away games .
Problem is that there are enough people who are rich enough to afford those increases. In fact, I reckon you could double every ticket price for most clubs in the PL and still sell out. Especially for London clubs, you have a lot of businesses who buy loads of tickets they can use for corporate guests or employees. Unless you have regulation that takes account of the wider context and culture of the sport, they are just going to charge as much as they can possibly get away with.
I would vote but the option wasnt listed. "There will be some positive effect, but not the radical changes needed" As an example I think the game needs to move away from income/turnover based spending limits and just have a simple flat spending cap. But the lobbying to prevent that will be insane so would never get implemented, and there will always be the concern of economical impact, players on huge wages also generate more tax income and the wow impact of the EPL is seen as a English success story, so I think will just be tinkering and nothing more.
