That Warnock was wrong to take offence at one of your players challenges. It's called the right of expression. We don't live in 1930's Germany, we get to say things without having some fat twat threaten to kick our head in because he dosen't agree with it. Learn the rules. I think if Warnock isn't allowed that, then perhaps a suspension for Leroy Lita who spent all game flinging himself on the floor would perhaps send a clear message to your training staff that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
NW was wrong read.... It was not a stamp and Hunt did not dive so why clap him. Although you are trying to compare two tottaly diffrent things I totally agree about Lita, twice he seemed to go over far to easy not what I want to see us do. Apperently the NOTW gave him MOM, sums the paper up.
Well thats cos Warnock is a prick, as has been stated a few times here, and Gillespie is a dick for getting sent off in the most stupid fashion I have seen in a while. You see the difference being that nobody in Red and White here is trying to make excuses for our wrongs. Starting a fight with another proffesional because you happen to believe what he is saying is wrong is bullshit, and unacceptable. Jose Mourinho and Arsene Wenger spend all game (at least they do against us) moaning, gesturing and bothering the fourth official about every single challenge, why has Wally Downes not said anything to these two, or pushed in a big girly way any other of the 92 managers in the football league who do the same week in week out? You know why, I know why, because it's Warnock, and he can get away with doing to him, if he pulled that shit against Alex Ferguson the F.A would throw the book so far up his fat arse he would choke on the pages. I am interested to hear Wycombe Royal's propaganda spin on this.
There is History between Warnock and Downes. DOwnes used to work as a youth coach for Stan Ternant, who I believe hates Warnock..
So which part of "I'm not condoning the actions of Wally Downes" and "and Wally reacted like a moron" which I wrote in my last post did you not understand? When will you Blades fans realise that Warnock is not blameless here? Do you understand the word "inflammatory"?
1) I have explained it as I saw it. 2) Warnock was not doing "nothing". 3) Downes will not get away with it and neither should he. It seems to me that the Reading fans here are being less biased that the Blades fans. We have admitted Downes was in the wrong, but as far as you lot are concerned Warnock did nothing at all and didn't do anything to make the situation worse.
I've just called Warnock a prick, he moans he groans, he ****ing irritates me with it a lot of the time. Have you just chose to ignore this comment? Yes. How suprising. You still haven't explained why, 5 minutes after it happened, your rotund talentless oaf of an assistant manager decided he was going to have a pop at him. In the heat of the moment I can see it could happen, but everything was back to normal, Warnock was just standing there and then a moronic tubby member of YOUR coaching staff went and had a pop. Why did this happen? Was Warnock doing anything at the time? No. Clear evidence. And please explain why this hasn't happened before? Mourinho didn't moan when he has at your ground? Wenger didn't grumble? Come on I'd love to hear it.
Jags,I DO live in 2007 germany and frankly would rather live in 1930,s germany! Believe me after schröder and then merkel Hitler would be like a breath of fresh air!
Fair point, I missed your comments just like you missed mine. At least I can admit it. Five minutes? Your watch must run very fast. Play hadn't even restarted. And it happened, as explained previously, because of Warnock's inflammatory gestures, which again you won't admit even occurred even though they have been shown on TV. Whether they were misinterpreted or not they were still inflammatory. Downes maintains he heard Warnock say certain things and he also claims that it was heard by a Reading player as well. Like I said it is probably a misinterpretation but if Warnock hadn't done an over exaggerated stamping motion after the referee had turned his back (and which wasn't in the direction of the ref but about 45 degrees to the right - you watch it again on TV) then Downes would have had nothing to react to. It is obvious why Mourinho moaned and we don't need to go there again, but I don't remember Wenger moaning, so you'll have to refresh my memory. And you need to remember this isn't the first time accusations of Warnock getting his players to go after opponents has occurred? Leeds last season and the "Battle of Brammall Lane" - sure nothing was proven but the accusations were made.
I'm not going to get drawn into the debate about Warnock because it's a waste of my time, it will just go round in circles and I can't be arsed with it. We were piss poor on Saturday, especially in the second half. The team selection didn't help us, Geary on the right wing? Give me a break. That performance on Saturday reminded me of early in the season when we were going away with these shitty negative tactics, 7 defenders on the field and never threatening the opposition's goal, which to be honest pissed me off. I also think Leroy Lita should be joining the British women's Olympic diving team, the pussy, what a joke he was, Jagielka was about a yard away from him and he went flying away like a f*cking fairy, and then got the f*cking foul! Mark Halsey has something against Warnock, pretty much like every other ref in the country 3 points are vital against Fulham I think, if we can keep the breathing space between us and the bottom 3 it will help.
I think that is the most sensible thing written on this thread and deserves some credit. I must admit he did go to ground too easily and very dramatically on a number of occasions. Those two recent matches against Everton must have had an effect on him. I still think your team has enough about them to survive the drop as long as you play more attacking football. Just like us, your defence is not good enough to soak up lots of pressure so you need to score more goals to get points (sounds a bit obvious I know).
However I do think you'll need a good creative/attacking midfielder added to your ranks who can come into the team straight away and start pulling the strings. I also don't think that player is Fathi.
Do you know something we don't then? because i have no idea how good Fathi is, so its really just a case of wait and see. I have enquired about him on an Egyptian forum and they rate him very highly saying he can play right across midfield. In fact if hes the type of player they say he is then he's EXACTLY what we need, but like i say i'll wait untill ive seen him for myself.
No I don't know anything about him above what is available in the media, but I do know that many younger players who come over to the English leagues take time to settle. There are of course a few exceptions to this, but that is generally the rule.
be nice to get the centre halves back , morgan kilgannon etc in the team , the plan was working well on saturday till reading got 2 nice rebounds from clearances from our players ,the second falling to their guy 7 yards out , and the second was a misshit pass that put them through gillespies must be one of the shortest times on the pitch since the infamous west brom game when our sub came on and lamped quashie for getting santos sent off , hey ho
I've been saying that for the last 7-8 months, as soon as we went up it was clear we'd need a creative central midfielder, and with 8 days left of the JANUARY transfer window, we still have not signed one. But don't worry, we've got 7 centre halves to onour books so it's ok.
