Renault 2.0 16v Sport.

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  1. DAISY

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    So they should be treated the same as everybody else then should they or what do you suggest?
     
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    Less likely to hit someone sticking to the speed limits, less time to stop e.t.c. I'm not having a go at you breaking the speed limits but at driving "stupidly fast", which as the phrase suggests probably isn't sensible. As someone else mentioned testing your skills is for a track not for a public highway.

    Of course I've seen the countryside...
     
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    Yes they should be treated the same, I can't see a valid reason for charging them more than you'd charge a Jag saloon, or a BMW 7 series, (for instance), they don't take up any more road?
     
  4. Andy

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    I were doing around 50 > 70 then go up to 90 on a straight.

    I use the gearbox to slow me down for the corners usually to about 35/40 so it's pretty safe really.
     
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    They are far less "green". :gotcha
     
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    What if? That's what you've got to ask yourself when doing stupidly fast speeds on roads.
     
  7. Andy

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    What if a tractor came around the corner at 80?

    :hmmm Ya barely ever see oncoming traffic on the road I were at.
     
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    Are they still on horse and cart in Yorkshire?
     
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    No, what if a tractor pulled out of a field while I was overtaking? What if I get a blow-out?
     
  10. Andy

    Andy Formerly Manutdlegend

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    'IF' being the key word of course.....

    Meh I'd rather have fun.
     
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    When you look at the overall figures, there's no real difference, partly because they have cameras in places purely to make cash.
    When cameras are placed in strategic areas eg. A9 from Perth to Inverness, then the death toll comes down. To be fair though, that road should be dual carriageway.

    I know plenty of people who drive like idiots and 90% of them are under 21.

    Road tax was raised to force people away from driving environmentally unfriendly cars eg 4x4

    I can certainly sympathise with the congestion charge. Until the government can provide a reliable public transport, there is no chance people will ditch their cars. I don't know why they don't copy Japan. Their system is superb. If the train/bus is late, your next journey is free. Late is one minute or more. From what I hear, it doesn't happen very often
     
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    Agree there shouldn't be a congestion charge in Manchester or any other British city (apart from London), there is no excuse for driving around London though really.
     
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    Well what's the excuse for driving around manchester city centre then.From me i can get a tram from bury and get to most places in manchester on it.I could also get a bus that goes direct to manchester city centre down the motorway,i live around 18 miles from there and can get a return ticket for under 6 quid.
     
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    TBH my knowledge of Manchester's public transport isn't vast. I've not had good experiences though, buses have been very slow and get caught up in the general traffic and there wasn't an obvious ticket which would let me on a bus run by every company so had to wait ages to get back from a night out. I have taken the tram to Bury, despite a 15 minute wait that wasn't bad although fairly pricey at £3ish.
     
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    The undeniable fact that young drivers have no concept of their own mortality, and invariably consider themselves to be more able than they are is the reason their insurance premiums are so high.

    But that's just not true. As I've said the most I ever get from my 1.8 Astra is 36mpg, I guarantee you that a diesel Freelander does more mpg than that.

    For some people public transport may be an option, but for myself I may go from home to a site in Oldham, Rochdale, Ashton under Lyne, Macclesfield or Buxton before going to the office, and I have a shedload of test equipment with me, it will never be any use to me.
     
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    Quite correct, which is why I initially said that their actions were why the responsible young drivers were being ripped off.

    It isn't about MPG but CO2 emissions.

    I am in the same situation there myself Stret, so I understand completely. I was aiming ore toward the office worker in town who could quite easily take a bus or train, yet drives the car and pays congestion charges and parking fees too.
     
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    It's about fleecing the motorist.

    My (1999) car has a C.A.T., but I'm sure it's emissions are higher than those of a new 4x4, they must be?
     
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    A new Porsche Cayenne 4x4 pumps out up to 361 kg/km of CO2 whilst an Astra 1.8 gives out 169 kg/km. Some 4x4s though, aren't as bad as they're made out. For instance, the BMW X3 has the same emissions as the Astra which is surprising.
     
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    I'm facing a tricky decision next year.

    Going to be living in Hartlepool (g/f degree course at CCAD there) but I'm doing my degree in boro so I have to travel through every day (roughly 20 minutes in the car).

    Now do I get the train or go in the car?

    Everything points to the direction of the car. Cost, Reliability, Safety, flexibility etc. Bare in mind I'm going to be carrying near on £2000 worth of laptop+equipment with me most of the time.
     
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    I don't know what the traffic is like up there but if it's jam packed then I'd do Train as I hate sitting in cars in traffic for long periods of time otherwise I'd go for the car.
     

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